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Thread: The Seanad: what is it good for?

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    Default The Seanad: what is it good for?

    In my view quite a lot.
    It provides a second look at legislation - I think over 900 amendments are made there annually.
    The order of business provides a useful forum for raising issues which would otherwise not get a mention. Under parliamentary privilege.
    It gives an opportunitity for young politicians to cut their teeth in a national forum, while giving wise old heads a place to give a piece of their mind,without having to bother with parish pump matters.
    The quality of the debate is often much higher than the Dail.

    So why is the senate so crap?

    1. The electoral system has become a farce with Councillors expected to copy from a list.
    2. Many have no real connection to the vested interest/panel from which they came.
    3. Only ff tds can choose their leader.
    4. Donie Cassidy.

    So how can it be improved or is it beyond repair?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Congalltee View Post
    1. The electoral system has become a farce with Councillors expected to copy from a list.
    2. Many have no real connection to the vested interest/panel from which they came.
    3. Only ff tds can choose their leader.
    4. Donie Cassidy.
    A few more points to add to your list:

    5. Eoghan Harris
    6. Eoghan Harris
    7. Eoghan Harris
    8. Eoghan Harris
    9. Eoghan Harris
    10. Eoghan Harris

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    It's good for Laugh ,Calley, Boyle etc kinda like BB though though not as seedy

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    Nothing. Get rid of it and restructure the Dáil along the lines of the unicameral parliaments that 14 EU member states have. Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Estonia and Slovakia are examples of countries that are doing fine without an expensive talking shop that serves only as a useful sink for TDs and wannabee TDs that the electorate have rejected and across-the-spectrum turncoat windbag appointees like Yawn Harris.:mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

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    Expenses.

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    I've updated the thread title, just to change "Senate" to "Seanad".

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    Quote Originally Posted by reknaw View Post
    Nothing. Get rid of it and restructure the Dáil along the lines of the unicameral parliaments that 14 EU member states have. Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Estonia and Slovakia are examples of countries that are doing fine without an expensive talking shop that serves only as a useful sink for TDs and wannabee TDs that the electorate have rejected and across-the-spectrum turncoat windbag appointees like Yawn Harris.:mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:
    +1

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    The bottom line is the current political structures failed to avoid this mess. The Committee system needs to be constitutionally backed as FG want but I wont hold my breath waiting for it. The Taoiseach's appointments to the senate need to be non-political and brought from a social as well as business backgroind. These two small enough reforms would be a step in right direction but will we see them-I doubt it. Turkeys-Christmas!
    Noel Whelan made some good points about today in IT about politicians' inability to reform themselves. Until we have mass demonstrations it wont really happen.

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    You blocks, you stones, you worse than senseless things!
    O you hard hearts, you cruel men of Rome,
    Knew you not Incitatus? Many a time and oft
    Have you climb'd up to walls and battlements,
    To towers and windows, yea, to chimney-tops,
    Your infants in your arms, and there have sat
    The livelong day, with patient expectation,
    To see great Incitatus pass the streets of Rome:

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