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    Post Is it not time for the 2nd Irish Republic?

    Is it not time for the 2nd Republic and the dismantling of the elites?

    Remember the French are on their 5th Republic and we are also approaching 100 years of independence. The Irish Republic is over 60 years of age so to be sure we have developed into a true Republic then the political, banking and property czar elite, who have bankrupted the country, should step aside.

    The country needs strong but fair leadership with a cross party consensus which unfortunately won’t happen in the current frenzy for blame etc. The approaching Dublin Mayoral Election or the Presidential Election could provide a platform for an independent minded person to step from this SHAMBLES and actually make a difference!
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    Not only is it time, it's long overdue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Male Nude Photographer View Post
    Not only is it time, it's long overdue.
    I agrree with you but those in power are slow to change and in fact Irish people are consevative by nature judging by recent voting patterns.

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    Both positions you have identified have no political clout whatsoever. The president is a figurehead and the mayoral election is not going to happen any time soon despite what Gormley advised.

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    Yes the Dublin mayoral election is the start of the people of Ireland getting a say! Not the 27 free and fair general elections we've held over the past 80 years. They were stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edor View Post
    Both positions you have identified have no political clout whatsoever. The president is a figurehead and the mayoral election is not going to happen any time soon despite what Gormley advised.
    Then go and get yourself elected.
    The President is head of state but the function has been watered down since the Republic was formed. However mary Robinson showed what a campaigning President can achieve.
    The Dublin Mayor will have full control and the election will happen for Mayor before year end as JG has promised.

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    No we would simply replace one elite with another. We need reform.

    Quote Originally Posted by 086sherbie View Post
    Is it not time for the 2nd Republic and the dismantling of the elites?

    Remember the French are on their 5th Republic and we are also approaching 100 years of independence. The Irish Republic is over 60 years of age so to be sure we have developed into a true Republic then the political, banking and property czar elite, who have bankrupted the country, should step aside.

    The country needs strong but fair leadership with a cross party consensus which unfortunately won’t happen in the current frenzy for blame etc. The approaching Dublin Mayoral Election or the Presidential Election could provide a platform for an independent minded person to step from this SHAMBLES and actually make a difference!

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    Strictly speaking wouldn't it be the third republic ?

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    Could we maybe have the 1st one first? The 1st (and only) Irish Republic was crushed in 1922 to be replaced by the Free State...the forerunner of the present pseudo-Republic of Ireland (note: NOT the same as the Irish Republic). A lot of the problems of the state stem from its gombeen political culture which resulted from this imperfect break from our colonial past (in my humble opinion).

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    Have we changed enough as a people to justify having one?
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