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    Over the last few months i have read of quite a few horrific killings of these animals, especially around the Leinster area, one theory is that with the disgraceful cheapness and lack of regulation that has always surrounded their trade - that with the recession people are abandoning or killing animals they no longer want to care for.

    Just recently another pony had it's throat cut, experts say it would have died an agonising death. A few weeks ago there was a picture of a burnt donkey (they didn't know if it had been alive at the time of burning or not) and just after Christmas there was an attempted burning of a dying pony by some sick juveniles.

    Warning to public after sadistic slaughter of pony - National News, Frontpage - Independent.ie

    Isn't it time to shut down cheap horse trading fairs and properly regulate the sale and care of these poor creatures? There seems to be an over-abundance of them in the Dublin area (especially the estates) and the level of care i have witnessed is far from adequate.

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    No creature should be killed in a cruel manner and buying an animal should be regarded as a responsibility.

    At the risk of sounding stupid why go to the bother of killing them and trying to dispose of the bodies? Why not just let them loose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squire Allworthy View Post

    At the risk of sounding stupid why go to the bother of killing them and trying to dispose of the bodies? Why not just let them loose?
    In the case of the slit throat - pleasure probably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thranduil View Post
    Over the last few months i have read of quite a few horrific killings of these animals, especially around the Leinster area, one theory is that with the disgraceful cheapness and lack of regulation that has always surrounded their trade - that with the recession people are abandoning or killing animals they no longer want to care for.

    Just recently another pony had it's throat cut, experts say it would have died an agonising death. A few weeks ago there was a picture of a burnt donkey (they didn't know if it had been alive at the time of burning or not) and just after Christmas there was an attempted burning of a dying pony by some sick juveniles.

    Warning to public after sadistic slaughter of pony - National News, Frontpage - Independent.ie

    Isn't it time to shut down cheap horse trading fairs and properly regulate the sale and care of these poor creatures? There seems to be an over-abundance of them in the Dublin area (especially the estates) and the level of care i have witnessed is far from adequate.
    There seems to be an over-abundance of them in the Dublin area (especially the estates)

    Which Estates are these?

    A horse had its throat cut in a field up Ongar way last week by some sick bastard/s BTW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catalpa View Post
    There seems to be an over-abundance of them in the Dublin area (especially the estates)

    Which Estates are these?

    A horse had its throat cut in a field up Ongar way last week by some sick bastard/s BTW.
    This one may not have been killed in an estate (true) but i never claimed it was, i claimed that horse/pony use is very high in the estates (which you have to admit is not the best place for them and likely to lead to them becoming expendable) and that's all.

    In the case of the slit throat - pleasure probably.
    Or it is possible that they thought they were doing it a favor and euthanising it in their own way...

    There is more on this epidemic of equine slayings here...

    DSPCA in the News March 2010

    The Dublin SPCA witnessed one of the most distressing scenes in its 170 years at the Dunsink Landfill, Finglas. A severely emaciated pony had been attacked by a pack of dogs who had then fed on the crippled and disabled animal for a period of time. The animal was still alive when Dublin SPCA officers arrived at the scene and was immediately euthanized.

    DSPCA CEO Jimmy Cahill who attended the scene said; I have seen some things in my life but never anything as horrendous as what Ive witnessed today. The poor animal was savaged beyond belief....

    The critically injured pony was in severe pain and distress and had to be euthanised by the Dublin SPCA officers who attended the scene with Gardai. No one has claimed ownership of the animal and it seems she is just another unlicensed and unregulated pony who was being kept by inexperienced owners.
    In a separate incident on Tuesday 15th February a red and white 2 year old female pony was knocked down at Cambler Bridge, Rathoath Road, Cabra, Dublin 7 at 1.15pm. The pony was seen at the location with a number of youths and was knocked down by what witnesses described as a Blue Toyota Avensis of which only part of the registration was identified as 05D. Witnesses saw the car, which was being driven by two male youths, hit the pony at the rear and then stop and drive into the pony a second time breaking the animals back leg before speeding off in the direction of Cabra.
    The cost is enormous for caring for animals taken into care...

    We cannot turn a blind eye to what is going on, however there are serious financial repercussions to the rescue and care of these horses. Every horse that we take in costs an average of 3,000.
    Definitely a charity worth supporting. Are these animals being produced as a byproduct of the horse-breeding industry? If so it would explain government indifference (the current lot are more interested canvassing for brown envelopes at horse-racing events and FG are probably no different) to legislating to put an end to this, if there is a connection then at the very least these places should be funded by the rich who benefit from the horseracing and breeding industries here.

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    You require a Dog License to own a miniture Yorkshire Terrier. What would you sa would do more damage to you, a Yorkie or a horse? We need to enforce licensing for horses and make it so you can't obtain one unless you have suitable stables.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thranduil View Post
    Over the last few months i have read of quite a few horrific killings of these animals, especially around the Leinster area, one theory is that with the disgraceful cheapness and lack of regulation that has always surrounded their trade - that with the recession people are abandoning or killing animals they no longer want to care for.

    Just recently another pony had it's throat cut, experts say it would have died an agonising death. A few weeks ago there was a picture of a burnt donkey (they didn't know if it had been alive at the time of burning or not) and just after Christmas there was an attempted burning of a dying pony by some sick juveniles.

    Warning to public after sadistic slaughter of pony - National News, Frontpage - Independent.ie

    Isn't it time to shut down cheap horse trading fairs and properly regulate the sale and care of these poor creatures? There seems to be an over-abundance of them in the Dublin area (especially the estates) and the level of care i have witnessed is far from adequate.
    dont we have laws and a so called police force to deal with these things

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiHiKuFuYu View Post
    Surely unwanted horses and ponies should be sent to the abattoir for slaughter, the meat can be used in the manufacture of cat and dog food failing that send it to France where it is appreciated for it's gastronomic qualities.
    The ISPCA or Bord Bia should have the resources to organise the scheme.
    No, let the horse breeders provide pasture for their 'failures' that end up at smithfield - heaven knows they make enough money out of these kinds of animals.

    Where do the excess horses come from? That's where we need to squeeze.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squire Allworthy View Post
    No creature should be killed in a cruel manner and buying an animal should be regarded as a responsibility.

    At the risk of sounding stupid why go to the bother of killing them and trying to dispose of the bodies? Why not just let them loose?
    Are ye mad? Modern horses cannot survive on grass alone. Horses are being abandoned on common land all over the country and the DSPCA & ISPCA are finding these poor emaciated creatures all the time.

    Shut down the horse fairs, limit legal ownership of horses to over 18's and introduce compulsory registration of ownership and freeze marking for ID purposes. Add to this a 15 year mandatory sentence for abandoning a horse for any reason.
    If you continue to elect idiots in elections, don't be surprised when the result is an idiotic government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gweedore View Post
    dont we have laws and a so called police force to deal with these things
    They tried to enforce the law in Moyross, Limerick a year or so ago and they rounded up all horses roaming the estate and there was uproar. The guards were accused of going over the top and preventing decent lads from having a hobby.

    Discussed here
    http://www.politics.ie/munster/27779...s-moyross.html

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