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Thread: Bats give head? Violation of academic freedom at UCC

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    Default Bats give head? Violation of academic freedom at UCC

    This is pretty unbelievable, but it happens to be true.

    Greg Lukianoff: Sex, Fruit Bats, and Politically Correct Zoology at an Irish College

    Apparently, Dr Evans showed an article on fellatio in bats to a colleague, and was accused of sexual harassment. He has now been cleared, but due to this, has been placed under extensive monitoring.

    His petition is doing the rounds of academia, and has attracted such luminaries as Steven Pinker and Daniel Dennett to sign it already.

    I am a UCC student, and I find this utterly reprehensible and disgraceful.

    Please show your support for Dr Evans at: Stop UCC from abusing its harassment policy to limit academic freedom

    The original article is here: PLoS ONE: Fellatio by Fruit Bats Prolongs Copulation Time

    This is a clear violation of academic freedom, and an embarassment for UCC and Ireland more generally.

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    saw this! Dawkins.net also blogged it. What a heap of discouraging crap for students wanting to study at UCC.

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    That's nuts. Any idea who the injured party is? Sounds like a particularly mean, petty and vindictive character.

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    Whether this is a breach of academic freedom is a moot point.
    If Dr Evans brought this article to the attention of a colleague engaged in the same area of work as he is then it may well be.
    If on the other hand he introduced it in a social context to someone who worked in another discipline it may not be.
    And if it was the latter what are we left with?
    The spontaneous introduction of the subject of fellatio, or other sexual practices, whether by fruit bats or fruitcakes, into a social workplace conversation would in some circumstances amount to sexual harassment, and would in many cases warrant some intervention from management.

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    From the article:

    But thankfully, here in the United States we have the awesome protections of the First Amendment to vindicate the rights to both free speech and academic freedom. Ireland, to my knowledge, does not have such powerful protections, leaving Dr. Evans in a bind
    Do we not have something equivalent to that here in ireland?

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    How comes none of the Irish media reported on this first?

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    Context would be important, but he does state he brought it up in context of a long running discussion with a colleague.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanclub View Post
    How comes none of the Irish media reported on this first?

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    Because for most Irish people the subject of bat fellatio is shocking and disturbing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mossy Heneberry View Post
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    Do we not have something equivalent to that here in ireland?
    We sure do, article 14.2 of the Universities Act.

    It says: (2) A member of the academic staff of a university shall have the freedom, within the law, in his or her teaching, research and any other activities either in or outside the university, to question and test received wisdom, to put forward new ideas and to state controversial or unpopular opinions and shall not be disadvantaged, or subject to less favourable treatment by the university, for the exercise of that freedom.

    Seems like a clear violation of this on UCC's part, especially given that external examiners exonerated him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mossy Heneberry View Post
    From the article:

    Do we not have something equivalent to that here in ireland?
    Yes, but our version is weaker (this is what caused the whole criminal blasphemy issue).

    However, I doubt the first amendment would actually protect him in the US. It isn't like US colleges don't have PC monitoring boards in them.

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