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    Default Merkel v Kenny: political and economic Union or bust

    The stakes could hardly be greater. Maybe Enda Kenny knows that. Merkel certainly does. Euro fails, Europe fails, she says. To save it we must have political and economic union. Much more than casting a glance over our draft budget there. Will she get her wish?

    German chancellor Angela Merkel said today the euro's troubles offered a chance for the European Union to strengthen its economic and political union, not just its common currency.

    Speaking at a ceremony in Aachen where Polish prime minister Donald Tusk was awarded the Charlemagne Prize for furthering European unity, Ms Merkel said the future of the EU was at stake in the challenges to its monetary amalgamation.

    "If the euro fails, not only the currency fails. Europe fails too, and the idea of European unification. We have a common currency, but no common political and economic union. And this is exactly what we must change. To achieve this - therein lies the opportunity of this crisis,” she said.

    "This test is existential - it must be passed."
    Merkel warns future of EU at stake - The Irish Times - Thu, May 13, 2010

    Will the Merkel test be 'passed'?

    What if Enda has his way?

    Enda yesterday:

    "Mr Kenny said the proposals would amount to the handing over of sovereignty of the State and the running of Irish affairs “to peer groups, depending on their political whim, in the EU council of ministers”.

    Speaking in the Dáil today, Mr Kenny said the budgetary proposals were “completely contrary” to the newly enacted Lisbon Treaty.

    “The proposals mean the political bias of the council, at any particular time, could influence what is being talked about here,” he said.

    He called on Taoiseach Brian Cowen to give assurances “that in no circumstances would the Government had over sovereignty for the running of our economy to anybody else”."
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    Looks to me that Frau Merkel is bust, politically at least.

    The stoopid beech allowed hundres of Billions belonging to German pension funds, to be gambled in the housing markets of the PIIGS, and now she expects the rest of Europe to bail her out.

    She has the clout to get the printing press churning out another Trillion Euro, but all this money will have to be accounted for in the end. That is the big picture, when the money has to be repaid to the ECB, which country can afford to pay back the money owed and still remain solvent.

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    kenny was one of the people calling for a 'yes' to lisbon and were the first to criticise us up here for voting correctly a saying 'no'. stupid bas7ards have sold us all out to save the ar5es of a few bent bankers!

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    To compare Angel Merkel to Enda Kenny is comical
    Kenny is a light weight political bandwagon-jumper trying to get one up on FF at all costs
    Merkel is a European stateswoman seeking to secure the future of the Euro

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse View Post
    To compare Angel Merkel to Enda Kenny is comical
    Kenny is a light weight political bandwagon-jumper trying to get one up on FF at all costs
    Merkel is a European stateswoman seeking to secure the future of the Euro
    And she's the one wearing the trousers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse View Post
    To compare Angel Merkel to Enda Kenny is comical
    Kenny is a light weight political bandwagon-jumper trying to get one up on FF at all costs
    Merkel is a European stateswoman seeking to secure the future of the Euro
    Merkel says that she wants to save it, but her actions over the last few months do not suggest that. Can anyone please explain why there is so little information coming out regarding the proposed bailout. They seem to be intent on conveying the most confused and ineffectual face on it.

    The Vice chancellor in Germany has echoed comments similar to Kenny's, as has the French Finance spokesperson and the Swedish PM.

    I don't think that it is that hard to get one up on FF, do you?.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charley View Post
    kenny was one of the people calling for a 'yes' to lisbon and were the first to criticise us up here for voting correctly a saying 'no'. stupid bas7ards have sold us all out to save the ar5es of a few bent bankers!
    Agreed, his party have had an idealogical loyalty to Europe, that prior to this did not seem to allow any critical thought regarding. I wonder how deep this new found ability to reason is though.

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    twice the germans tried to annex europe by hostile means, now they're trying to buy it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Touché View Post
    twice the germans tried to annex europe by hostile means, now they're trying to buy it
    I think it's more a case that the rest of us are trying to sell it to them! Anyway, what Merkel says makes perfect sense - Enda can have Achill Island as his independent fiefdom if he wants, I want to be a part of a modern Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse View Post
    To compare Angel Merkel to Enda Kenny is comical
    Kenny is a light weight political bandwagon-jumper trying to get one up on FF at all costs
    Merkel is a European stateswoman seeking to secure the future of the Euro
    Enda Kenny is comical Kenny is a light weight political bandwagon-jumper trying to get one up on FF at all costs

    Correct - Komical Kenny is indeed a National joke!

    Merkel is a European stateswoman seeking to secure the future of the Euro

    Not quite correct - Frau Merkel wishes to see the Franco-Germanic Pact agreed in the wake of WWII to be fully implemented - with Germany in the driving seat of course!

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