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Thread: St Mary's Hospital, Phoenix Park... Pretty shocked at the state of it...

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    Default St Mary's Hospital, Phoenix Park... Pretty shocked at the state of it...

    A relative of mine was recently transferred from the Mater Hospital to St Mary's as a "complicated discharge". She's suffering from cancer and recovering from pretty serious surgery which has left her in need of rehab.

    She's a very active, 100% with-it lady and she was getting on fine in the mater in a mixed, friendly cancer ward.

    I called over to her at St Mary's and I am absolutely horrified at the state of the place. It's literally falling apart and it's filthy in many areas. You walk in via what is laughingly called a reception area. It had a broken door, no staff member or security, ugly brown carpet and dark paint/flaking off the walls. It looks like some kind of horrible old industrial school or something.

    There was even a light fitting with literally hundreds of dead flies (possibly bluebottles) inside it.

    In her ward the beds are so close that the nurses can't even walk between them!!

    My relative is at risk of infection because of her treatment reducing her immune response slightly, so this seems a little crazy.

    It's also not very dignified or comfortable to be *that* close to the next patient.

    It's an absolutely depressing environment and I'm horrified that such places still exist and that the HSE can standover having staff and patients in such an absolute kip.

    The ward she is in has been renovated a bit, i.e. it looks re-painted and a little brighter. However, it is still grossly over-packed with patients.

    The staff seem friendly, but the facility is just disgraceful and depressing. It must be hugely demoralising for staff and and even more so for patients.

    My relative desperately wants to get out of this place and get home a.s.a.p.

    In fact, I think she would get back to some level of health and well being by going home a.s.a.p. even though she has pretty serious cancer.

    I'm just wondering had anyone else has had any dealings with this place or if our experience of I is representative of the entire facility?

    Overseas relatives called in and actually wondered how such facilities could possibly exist in a 1st world country. It's THAT bad!

    It makes my blood boil when I look at a vanity project just a short distance away, Farmleigh. The state spent €29.2 million in 1999 purchasing it from its original owners and another €23 million refurbishing it. Meanwhile, some of the most vulnerable people in the area are left in a decaying 19th century heap down the road.

    You'd really have to wonder!

    €52.2 million would have done quite a lot for it!

    You can measure a civilisation's development by how it treats its most vulnerable. Not by how fancy its Governmental follies are.

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    I visited a relative in that place 7 years ago and even then it was due a lick of paint. The staff, as in most hospitals and homes, were wonderful and it's a great credit to them that they have to work in such dirty conditions!

    Maybe a proposed visit from our minister would get the background cleaned up for the photoshoot!

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    christ on a bike that sounds bad

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    I think medical staff and other hospital staff need to put much serious political pressure on to get stuff like this cleaned up though.

    Nobody should be expected to treat patients in those kinds of conditions.

    More importantly, patients shouldn't have to put up with this kind of thing.

    Staff & patients have a common interest in getting this kind of thing sorted out and brought into the 21st century.

    In the case of St Mary's it's just in dire need of a good scrub, tidy, paint, reorganisation and a serious cheering-up. It's not crying out for expensive equipment or anything like that, just basic maintenance and housekeeping.

    Rather, it's more like it's forgotten about and lost in the park.

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    it sounds like Moldova or Azerbaijan,although they prob have more investments in hosps there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by danger here View Post
    it sounds like Moldova or Azerbaijan,although they prob have more investments in hosps there!
    Yeah, it sort of has a that kind of vibe mixed with tumble-down Victorian and industrial school about it.

    It's a complete dump anyway and it's absolutely disgraceful that the HSE sees fit to keep elderly and disabled patients in it.

    If they even got an interior designer and a painting team in to give it a once over it would at least improve the massively negative psychological impact it's having on its patients.

    My relatives main concern is that she does not want to die in a dump like this.

    She actually had excellent and very high-tech and expensive medical treatment for her cancer, most of which would have not been available on the NHS if she were in the UK, but then it's all let down by sending her off to recuperate in a completely inappropriate facility.

    The Irish Healthcare "System" seems to be completely inconsistent and while you can get good service, you can also be confronted by stuff like this which really shouldn't exist in this country. We had enough money to sort out all of these problems and put appropriate infrastructure in.

    It just makes me think that we are suffering from systemic gross mismanagement of resources and the Government *has* to go.

    I mean we were swimming in cash for quite a long while and they managed to blow the whole lot of it and did a half-assed job on building infrastructure i.e. schools falling apart, hospitals randomly new / collapsing depending on the luck of the draw, the slowest motorway build-out project in human history... etc etc etc
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    Weirdly, St.Mary's hospital is where the President votes in elections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stripey cat View Post
    Weirdly, St.Mary's hospital is where the President votes in elections.
    Maybe she should have a look around the wards next time!!

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    My wife's Aunt spent the last 3 years of her life in that place.

    I don't remember it being that overcrowded at the time but it sure was shabby and IMO the patients were left to mentally rot with very little in the way of stimulus for the long term patients...

    - now maybe given the average age and constition of the patients I can see that might not be easy when the place is short staffed and clearly underfunded.

    It should be brought up to acceptable standard ASAP!

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    In the old days didn't nurses keep the hospital clean? Maybe if they stayed back 20 minutes after their shift and did a bit of cleaning it wouldn't feel such a miserable place?

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