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    Polls leave Fianna Fail fearing total decimation - National News, Frontpage - Independent.ie

    A series of private opinion polls show that Fianna Fail would lose far more seats than the 20 currently predicted if there was a sudden election.

    The result of the secret polls have left senior party figures in "a state of fear'' that the party is poised to experience a 2002-style Fine Gael wipeout in Dublin and the country.

    The polls also reveal that the electorate is poised to "take out'' the party's senior ministers rather than more humble backbenchers.

    The party hierarchy is seriously "disturbed" by three constituency polls in Dun Laoghaire, Dublin South West and Mayo.

    In Dun Laoghaire the polls suggest that the high profile FF Ministers Mary Hanafin and Barry Andrews are both in real danger of losing their seats. Fine Gael, in contrast, is poised to win two while Labour will almost definitely take a seat.(Duh - Gilmore is in DL)

    The results are believed to be even more stunning in Dublin South West, where Fianna Fail currently holds two of the four seats.

    A well-respected former minister told the Sunday Independent that the figures there show that both Pat Rabbitte and Brian Hayes have almost two quotas each.

    When it comes to the collapsed Fianna Fail vote, the humble FF backbench TD Charlie O'Connor is ahead of the high profile Innovation Minister Conor Lenihan.
    I'm staggered by the DSW result... both FG & Lab on 2 quotas?? How!!! I asusmed Sean Crowe would be a shoe in this time round... wow.... Kebabs going is interesting..


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    Mr Cowen's high profile ministerial protege Dara Calleary is under more pressure than controversial Beverley Flynn.

    "These figures show we're on course to win less than five seats in Dublin," said a Fianna Fail member, adding that if the figures from the three constituencies are replicated nationwide, "no cabinet minister, not even the Tanaiste up in Donegal, is safe.''
    Very interesing that its the Ministers and not the backbenchers facing the music...Brian Lenihan might be the only Minister in Dublin safe...

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    Jesus Mr smug himself Hayes will love that!! Tho i bet they'll only run 1 in DSW.

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    Cheering news.

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    I take it they mean that Labour would win an extra seat in DL - 2 FG and 2 Labour.

    The poll is plausible and using actual names is more reliable than just a party support poll.

    FG taking 2 in DSW would be a stunner though.

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    Does make interesting reading but you'd have to treat source with extreme caution. Crowe will take a seat and its really up to lab or fg to run a second candidate, manage their vote properly and hope the FF vote splits evenly between lenihan and o connor creating an opportunity to eliminate both.

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    'You can have Fianna Fail, or Pat Rabitte.'
    Punters: 'Could we have a bit more choice please?'

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjoz View Post
    Does make interesting reading but you'd have to treat source with extreme caution. Crowe will take a seat and its really up to lab or fg to run a second candidate, manage their vote properly and hope the FF vote splits evenly between lenihan and o connor creating an opportunity to eliminate both.
    On the basis of what the alleged poll says it looks as if SF will lose out. On the poll FF vote would halve to circa 20% but labour and FG between seem to have the vast majority of the remainder meaning that SF or any other party are just not a factor in the constituency any longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjoz View Post
    Does make interesting reading but you'd have to treat source with extreme caution. Crowe will take a seat and its really up to lab or fg to run a second candidate, manage their vote properly and hope the FF vote splits evenly between lenihan and o connor creating an opportunity to eliminate both.
    Will Crowe taking a seat depend if Labour have a credible running mate with Rabbite?

    In theory FF should have a quota here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adamirer View Post
    Polls leave Fianna Fail fearing total decimation - National News, Frontpage - Independent.ie



    I'm staggered by the DSW result... both FG & Lab on 2 quotas?? How!!! I asusmed Sean Crowe would be a shoe in this time round... wow.... Kebabs going is interesting..


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    Very interesing that its the Ministers and not the backbenchers facing the music...Brian Lenihan might be the only Minister in Dublin safe...
    It seems to me that the government as so removed from the people(not the 15% of ff diehards) that they don't actually realise how despised they really are, hatred is not too strong a word for many people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony B View Post

    In theory FF should have a quota here.
    The poll says that there is a quota between both FFers but it is badly split between them which is the problem.

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