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    David Quinn: We'll pay a heavy price for allowing same-sex unions

    The following is a rather offensive rant by David Quinn of The Irish Independent:

    Friday March 12 2010

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    Despite the protestations of the gay lobby, the Civil Partnership Bill creates de facto marriage for same-sex couples. The media will call civil partners 'husbands'. That is guaranteed.
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    The bishops describe the Bill as "an extraordinary and far-reaching attack on freedom of conscience and the free practice of religion which is guaranteed to every citizen".

    How does it do this? Here's how. For one thing, a parish will be required by law to rent out its hall to a same-sex couple if they want to use it to hold their reception there following a civil-union ceremony.
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    They will be found guilty of discrimination. They will be put in the same boat as people who refuse to facilitate inter-racial marriage. That is, they will be treated as the exact functional equivalent of racists for believing in traditional marriage.
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    So you see where we are? The Government has told us that this Bill will affect only the few hundred same-sex couples who will choose to avail of it. In fact, it will treat belief in traditional marriage as a form of prejudice, to be outlawed under certain circumstances.
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    It should also know that over time, more and more Christians are going to discover that through this Bill the Government will equate their belief in traditional marriage with racism. Sooner or later it will pay a price for this because it will not be forgotten.

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    - David Quinn
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    The fact that the bishops and their sock puppets like Quinn are against the Civil Union bill, just like the hysterical drag queen stormtroopers, says the government got this one right.
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    Second, Bishop Christopher Jones attacked the media for singling out the Church as though priests are responsible for the majority of child abuse in this country,
    ...but, as Bishop Jones has been reminded, thats not quite the case. His rather disgusting whinge will avail him and his naught, thankfully.

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    They will be found guilty of discrimination. They will be put in the same boat as people who refuse to facilitate inter-racial marriage. That is, they will be treated as the exact functional equivalent of racists for believing in traditional marriage.
    No they won't David.

    They WILL be treated as bigots if they discriminate against people on the grounds of their sexuality - and rightly so.

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    The bishops describe the Bill as "an extraordinary and far-reaching attack on freedom of conscience and the free practice of religion which is guaranteed to every citizen".

    How does it do this? Here's how. For one thing, a parish will be required by law to rent out its hall to a same-sex couple if they want to use it to hold their reception there following a civil-union ceremony.
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    They will be found guilty of discrimination. They will be put in the same boat as people who refuse to facilitate inter-racial marriage. That is, they will be treated as the exact functional equivalent of racists for believing in traditional marriage.
    I guess this was the argument to deny women and other races equality? Why do people like him invest so much time on these topics. Why not just get on with life. Who really cares...

    Before the divorce Referendum we were told the skies would fall in & despite a narrow Yes margin there has been almost no talk about since as people move on.

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    Quinn will have his own column in the Sunday Indo if he keeps this up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sondagefaux View Post
    No they won't David.

    They WILL be treated as bigots if they discriminate against people on the grounds of their sexuality - and rightly so.
    A bit like those who deny religious people their beliefs? Bigots?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foghorn View Post
    A bit like those who deny religious people their beliefs? Bigots?
    What religious beliefs are being denied?

    The law doesn't say that you can't believe that marriage is only between a man and a woman.

    The law doesn't say that a same-sex couple have the right to be married in a religious ceremony and that the religion must perform that ceremony.

    In fact, the law doesn't even legalise same-sex marriage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foghorn View Post
    A bit like those who deny religious people their beliefs? Bigots?
    Bigot is almost certainly the wrong word. Discriminatory and intolerent would be more apt.

    I really cannot see the negative implications of allow Gay Civil Union. I cannot see how it will affect me in the slightest if it is implemented and it will give the gay community a certain amount of happiness that thus far they have been deprived of.
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    They will be found guilty of discrimination. They will be put in the same boat as people who refuse to facilitate inter-racial marriage. That is, they will be treated as the exact functional equivalent of racists for believing in traditional marriage.
    And rightfully so because it is the same. Mere prejudice cannot be the grounds for denying people their rights.

    If anything the bill does not go far enough as it should allow for a full civil marriage for homosexuals. But the government are right not to have allowed a conscience clause to allow public officials who are against homosexual marriage to opt out of conducting the ceremonies.

    I will never understand the need that some people have to impose, using the law, their own morality on others.

    If you don't agree with gay marriage than it is very simple: don't marry someone of the same sex. Otherwise keep your nose out of other people's business.
    “I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty, than those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson (yeah, I'm aware of the irony)

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