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Thread: Willie O'Dea and that case: 10 specific questions

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    Even if Willie O'Dea did not perjure himself (though can we not leave that to the gardai, the DPP and/or a jury or even a Peter Robinson style Senior Council?), the following questions arise:

    1) Why did he lie to a journalist? (he has admitted this).
    2) Why did he engage in a smear campaign against a public rep (also admitted)?
    3) Why when he swore his affidavit on the 14th April, did he not check the facts with the other person present?
    4) Why, if he did not check the facts, did he use the words “I most categorically and emphatically deny that I said (to Mr Dwane that the plaintiff was the owner of the said apartment)"?
    5) Why did not not correct the facts by the time Judge Cooke relied on that denial on the 20th April, 2009?
    6) Why was the admission not mentioned in the High Court prior to the 21st December, 2009 given that it was already in the public domain?
    7) Did he give an opportunity to Judge Cooke to address the point after he withdrew the affidavit (considering Judge Cooke had already relied on it in a judgment of the 20th April, 2009)?
    8) When did he inform the Taoiseach and his coalition partners?
    9) If the Minister's memory is so poor that on the 10th March, 2009 he makes a statement but by the 14th April, 2009 he cannot remember making it? (especially since the statement is quite racy "There was a house owned by him that was rented out and they found two ladies of the night operating in there in the last couple of weeks.”)

    10) Could anyone have any confidence that Willie O'Dea could be believed on any matter in the future (eg bonds, nama, budget)?

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    All valid.

    And should be communicated to your local opposition TDs before the Motion is heard.

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    very good questions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Congalltee View Post
    9) If the Minister's memory is so poor that on the 10th March, 2009 he makes a statement but by the 14th April, 2009 he cannot remember making it? (especially since the statement is quite racy "There was a house owned by him that was rented out and they found two ladies of the night operating in there in the last couple of weeks.”)
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    Don't forget, that it took O'Dea four months to correct his false affidavit. A far cry from the "immediate" correction he claimed in the Dail tonight,

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    They key here is, why did he not check with the journalist when swearing the affidavit.

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    Scans of the affidavit here

    They prove conclusively that Willie was acting as a minister in his sworn evidence to the High Court.

    Makes a total mockery of O'Dea's & Cowen's statements in the Dail today.

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    As a partyworker, I also have serious reservations about this whole issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revereie View Post
    As a partyworker, I also have serious reservations about this whole issue.
    On what grounds, misleading the court, abusing his ministerial position - as if it implied his word was infallible, that Cowen is backing him, the sheer stupidity of a Barrister being caught out like this. The personal attacks on the Regan's.

    Serious reservations - I have serious reservations about you if that is all you can say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by consultant View Post
    All valid.

    And should be communicated to your local opposition TDs before the Motion is heard.
    And even to some FF/green TDs. I wonder how many answers to the ten will we get?

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