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    Default State sponsored swindles how they are crushing the economy

    It might be an idea to list on this thread all the state sponsored swindles and how the economy is buckling under their combined weight.

    I can think think of 2 off hand.

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    There are a vast array of over-paid private consultants who operate across most areas of the public sector in Ireland.

    These people provide legal services, medical services, business consultancy service, training service, etc etc into various QUANGOS (Quasi-Unaccountable Autonomous Non-Governmental OrganisationS) at absolutely enormous cost to the tax payer.

    (QANGO is the normal version, QUANGO is the special Fianna Fail version)

    There needs to be an urgent audit of how these people operate. I have seen fees being charged to state bodies which would make your head spin.

    I don't know how, but someone either in an opposition party or the media who has the resources to put in the FOI requests needs to go after some of these things.

    The amount of tax payers' and even EU money that is being syphoned out of the system by "the lads" is just nuts.

    Many of these consultants are hired on an on-going, basically permanent basis and in a lot of cases, they ought to be replaced by a permanent and pensionable job through proper public sector recruitment.

    Instead, it is quite clear that it is far more lucrative for these people to be self-employed and sell their services at vastly inflated rates back to the state.

    There is absolutely no value for money being saught and in most cases it seems the state just coughs up laughably huge amounts of cash.

    I realise that consultants are sometimes needed, but their use should only be confined to one-off projects where there would be no benefit in recruiting someone to do the job on a permanent basis.

    Many of these consultants are doing public-sector work on a full time basis and their contracts just roll on and on and on.

    If someone in Ireland isn't willing to do something about this, perhaps the European Commission or the ECB ought to.

    We are likely to be looking for EU/ECB bale-outs, yet our useless "Government" is probably not going to touch any of these 'jobs for the boys/girls'

    Instead, it will slash front line staff like nurses, gardai, junior clerical staff who deal with the public, social workers, teachers, etc etc and vilify them. Refuse to reform the judicial system and keep piling people who can't pay their TV / Dog license into prison at huge expense and slash social welfare, education, health etc etc. But one thing is damn certain, those special protected individuals will still be charging huge fees in and sucking the life out of our state finances.

    The system is a complete corrupt joke.

    I suspect that FAS is only the tip of the ice berg!

    FG and Labour ought to be considering rolling out a new powerful regulator which constantly analyses state bodies for value-for-money. The Comptroller and Auditor General's office is simply not big enough or well resourced enough to do it on its own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FastBreak View Post
    Swindles? What about motor tax? In any other language it is obtaining monies through deception!
    Really? It was obtained from you through deception, was it? It was obtained from most people through legislative provision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FastBreak View Post
    Swindles? What about motor tax? In any other language it is obtaining monies through deception!
    What about hanger 6 at dublin airport. It looks that Gov tell Aer Lingus to take hanger six and for DAA to ensure they get it and so to block ryanair from getting any sort of foothold in dublin airport.

    Apparently hanger 6 is far to big for what Aer lingus need and it is merely being used as a mechanism to block Ryanair.

    Apparently the DAA are experts in non cooperation and in placing blocks in the way of anyone who wants to do anything t the airport (according to a bloke on the official gov radio station (Joe Duffy) today.

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    90% of all so called 'green' and 'smart economy' initiatives.

    All aboard the bandwagon. The train is about to leave the station, people.

    Never mind 'ghost estates'. In (I estimate about) ten years, it looks like we will have 'ghost wind farm estates' and god knows what else.

    It's easy to recognise where the most filthy (and generally destructive to the common well-being) lucre lies just by looking at government tax breaks and grants.

    It has been a reliable sign of 'hopelessly unproductive works' in the past, and I would say that it will continue to be in the forseeable future.
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    DDA - State sponsored property developer. Just have to look at Former Glass Bottle site to see how corrupt.

    DAA - Said they could build cost effective new Terminal. Once they got the go ahead built what is really an extra arm of existing Terminal at massive cost which everyone else has to pay for.

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    Lets build another airport on the Southside now

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    Lets set up a sub committee to nominate a committee to set up a department to research your claims.
    “The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design.” - Friedrich A. Hayek

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo99 View Post
    It might be an idea to list on this thread all the state sponsored swindles and how the economy is buckling under their combined weight.

    I can think think of 2 off hand.

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    FAS. nuff said

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