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    In a piece on what the Opposition should be getting across to voters before the next election, Stephen Collins had the following to say about the previous Taoiseach: "[...] it is becoming clearer by the day that Ahern was probably the worst leader the country ever had and people in all walks of life are now suffering because of his incompetent management of the economy": Opposition parties must tell electorate hard truths - The Irish Times - Sat, Jan 02, 2010

    That's pretty hard-hitting stuff, but it's refreshing to see that awful charlatan being unambiguously described as such in a very public way. Every time I see that man's face in the media, I wonder how so many were taken in by such false and transparent charm barely concealing such self-interested use of Irish politics.

    Good on you Stephen!

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    Its very simple.

    Ahern was a closet Marxist who

    a]Pandered constantly to the shallow left wing communications media who uncritically lauded his so called working mans credentials ie love of the pint & soccer.
    The type of inverse snobbery that destroys societies

    b] Gave the public service unions lots of pay rises by impoverishing the private sector worker.
    This is legalized theft to maintain political power.

    [Watch as the Greens promote carbon taxes on the basis of the false science surrounding climate change. Another form of theft to maintain political power]

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    No doubt Bertie was was a gob***** of the highest order but how exactly do you think he could have diverted the financial crisis.

    If he stood up to the financial institutions it would all still have crashed, so what difference would it have made??
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    The small matter of him being a big perjuring liar about where the money he says wasn't corrupt came from is a side-issue, I suppose. Such is modern morality...

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    How the feck is that Marxism....he helped create and maintain an elite within the public sector and another in the private sector. Everyone else was blinded by cheap credit and the subsequent greed, and now are the ones in the sh1tter.

    Ahern was a goon, drunk on power and corrupt to the hilt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HughinBandon View Post
    No doubt Bertie was was a gob***** of the highest order but how exactly do you think he could have diverted the financial crisis.

    If he stood up to the financial institutions it would all still have crashed, so what difference would it have made??

    Let me guess the next line: "They're all the same". "We are where we are".

    FFS, they're NOT all the same. And we are where we are because BAD DECISIONS were made. Repeatedly. By those currently in power. And they won't apologise for it, or allow investigations into why it happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FakeViking View Post
    Let me guess the next line: "They're all the same". "We are where we are".

    FFS, they're NOT all the same. And we are where we are because BAD DECISIONS were made. Repeatedly. By those currently in power. And they won't apologise for it, or allow investigations into why it happened.
    You think you can change the system?

    Move down here to Cork and I'll give you my vote. You can take it from there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HughinBandon View Post
    No doubt Bertie was was a gob***** of the highest order but how exactly do you think he could have diverted the financial crisis.

    If he stood up to the financial institutions it would all still have crashed, so what difference would it have made??
    Not every OECD country was badly hit by the financial crisis. The fact that we grotesquely overborrowed means that we are at the top of the very-worst-affected list. That is the principal legacy of Ahern's premiership.

    How could he have avoided the worst effects of the credit crunch? For a start by avoiding pro-cyclical inflationary policies. By avoiding the stimulus of property development. By not subcontracting government to hundreds of bloated quangos. By developing the state's (still) atrocious infrastructure. By regulating financial practices (incl. excessive mortgage lending). And that's for starters...

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    Quote Originally Posted by McDave View Post
    Not every OECD country was badly hit by the financial crisis. The fact that we grotesquely overborrowed means that we are at the top of the very-worst-affected list. That is the principal legacy of Ahern's premiership.

    How could he have avoided the worst effects of the credit crunch? For a start by avoiding pro-cyclical inflationary policies. By avoiding the stimulus of property development. By not subcontracting government to hundreds of bloated quangos. By developing the state's (still) atrocious infrastructure. By regulating financial practices (incl. excessive mortgage lending). And that's for starters...
    +1. And it's not as if what you say are difficult or ideological issues, they're what is to be expected from a prudent, competent government.

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    Remove the word probably.

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