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Thread: Equal rights for LGBT people in the EU: The EP takes one further step

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    Default Equal rights for LGBT people in the EU: The EP takes one further step

    With the Oireachtas debating the Civil Partnerships and Co-Habitating Couples Bill today [thursday] i thought it important to highlight whereabouts the European Parliament is at on the issue.

    27 Nov 2009

    The European Parliament today adopted a resolution on the Multi-annual programme 2010-2014 regarding the area of freedom, security and justice, known as the Stockholm programme. By adopting this text, the European Parliament is calling on Member States "without prejudice to national legislation on family law, to ensure freedom of movement for EU citizens and their families, including both registered partnerships and marriages" in accordance with EU legislation, and "to avoid all kinds of discrimination on any ground, including sexual orientation" (paragraph 31).

    Michael Cashman and Ulrike Lunacek MEPs, Co-presidents of the European Parliament's Intergroup on LGBT Rights, referred to the adoption of the text as "a step towards equality for all European citizens, although we regret that the resolution stops short of fully recognising same-sex unions." They continued: "The European Parliament has just sent a clear message that Member States need to ensure the freedom of movement of all families, and recognise unions between all EU citizens, regardless of their sexual orientation. The text goes in the direction of an EU-wide recognition of all unions contracted in Member States; this is good news for all EU citizens, but we will need to keep up the pressure on EU institutions and Member States in the coming years to fully recognise same-sex unions -- only then will we have genuine equality."
    Evelyne Paradis, ILGA-Europe Policy Director, said that the resolution "is very welcome since it illustrates the will of the new European Parliament to pursue the work initiated in the previous term, in order to achieve mutual recognition of all marriages and civil partnerships legally registered in one Member State.
    Full article available at www.ilga-europe.org

    Ireland btw obtained and opt-out (on a case-by-case basis) of Justice and Home Affairs [Freedom, Security and Justice].

    Perhaps same-sex marriages in Ireland afterall?
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    Does this mean FutureTaoiseach will now start supporting the elites in Brussels?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enda the Mayo peasant View Post
    Does this mean FutureTaoiseach will now start supporting the elites in Brussels?

    thanks for staying on topic Edna

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFunkyBoogaloo View Post
    thanks for staying on topic Edna
    Is that a record, going off topic by the second post in a thread???
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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyO'Brien View Post
    Is that a record, going off topic by the second post in a thread???
    I know!! and it had to be mine?!?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enda the Mayo peasant View Post
    Does this mean FutureTaoiseach will now start supporting the elites in Brussels?
    Off Thread: I presume you are familiar with FT rather well online with such a comment after 34 posts

    Semi on Thread: (re the equal rights for LGBT people in the EU) .... and referring to the T part of LGBT ... The Irish High Court in 2007 found in the Lydia Foy case that Irish Law was incompatible with the ECHR ...as far as I recall the Irish gov appealed to the Supreme Court ...
    What's the present scenario with the Appeal?.... maybe folk like Corelli might have some idea

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    meanwhile... back at the ranch.

    I think Ireland will opt-out on this one. FF especially! Unsure about FG?

    If spain has same-sex marriage it would (if Ireland doesn't opt out) effectively mean that LGBT citizens could get married in Spain and have their civil marriages recognised here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ah Well View Post
    Off Thread: I presume you are familiar with FT rather well online with such a comment after 34 posts

    Semi on Thread: (re the equal rights for LGBT people in the EU) .... and referring to the T part of LGBT ... The Irish High Court in 2007 found in the Lydia Foy case that Irish Law was incompatible with the ECHR ...as far as I recall the Irish gov appealed to the Supreme Court ...
    What's the present scenario with the Appeal?.... maybe folk like Corelli might have some idea
    And, hey presto, Corelli appears!!!

    There is a rumor that the State have dropped their appeal though the Solicitor representing Ms. Foy, Michael Farrell, until recently had heard nothing to that effect. The appeal itself will probably come up next year, if not dropped. It's a sure fire winner for Ms. Foy and the State are adopting the usual tactic of making the Supreme Court do their legislating for them.
    "......... we must sometimes listen to those who, consumed with zeal, have scant judgment or balance. To such ones the modern world is nothing but betrayal and ruin.........We feel bound to disagree with these prophets of doom who are forever forecasting calamity -- as though the world's end were imminent."

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFunkyBoogaloo View Post
    With the Oireachtas debating the Civil Partnerships and Co-Habitating Couples Bill today [thursday] i thought it important to highlight whereabouts the European Parliament is at on the issue.



    Full article available at www.ilga-europe.org

    Ireland btw obtained and opt-out (on a case-by-case basis) of Justice and Home Affairs [Freedom, Security and Justice].

    Perhaps same-sex marriages in Ireland afterall?
    A lesbian couple, friends of mine, voted Yes to Lisbon because they felt it would ultimately lead to the EU forcing Ireland to grant gay marriage rights. They saw recognition of marriages in another EU state as the first step.

    Clever ladies.

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    i confidently predict this thread, like all lgbt related threads, will have reached 20 pages of queerbashing and reaction to queerbashing with 20 hours.
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