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Thread: Irish civil servants now paid double Northern Ireland's (and UK's) civil servants

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    Default Irish civil servants now paid double Northern Ireland's (and UK's) civil servants

    See the wages figures at Civil Service statistics and Table: Employment and Earnings in Public Sector by Type of Public Sector Employment, Quarter and Statistic

    At present exchange rates with the £ hovering around one euro,Irish civil service pay is roughly double the UK's. Maybe we should just contract out the civil service functions to the UK and NI ! But it's possible our civil servants are twice as productive as the UK's!

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    -Median gross annual earnings (excluding overtime or one-off
    bonuses) for permanent full-time employees were £22,520

    -2008Q2
    Public Sector Average Weekly Earnings (Euro)
    Civil Service 889.82

    Latter is €46,270 a year,while £22,520 @ exchange rate of €1.09 equals €24,547.

    The median and the average are roughly comparable as long as the distribution of earnings around the median doesn't vary dramatically between the two countries.
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    the same must be true of tesco workers also

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-ray View Post
    the same must be true of tesco workers also
    No. Where are your wage figures?

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    Quote Originally Posted by patslatt View Post
    The median and the average are roughly comparable as long as the distribution of earnings around the median doesn't vary dramatically between the two countries.
    No, you dont understand basic statistics. The distribution around the median (or mean) could be identical between the two countries and there could still be a difference between the median and mean. I suspect both distributions are skewed and in both cases the mean will be higher than the median.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patslatt View Post
    See the wages figures at Civil Service statistics and Table: Employment and Earnings in Public Sector by Type of Public Sector Employment, Quarter and Statistic

    At present exchange rates with the £ hovering around one euro,Irish civil service pay is roughly double the UK's. Maybe we should just contract out the civil service functions to the UK and NI ! But it's possible our civil servants are twice as productive as the UK's!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeGaulle 2.0 View Post
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    I imagine it would certainly be cheaper and more efficient to administer the HSE from India
    Have you ever had to deal with an outsourced Indian customer service department?

    Efficiency doesn't describe it, cheap does.
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    With the unions call ing "equity" and "fairness" surely they couldnt object to the unfair premium in Ps jobs being removed? Or being benchmarked against UK (with adjustment for different cost of living) would be "Fair"?

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    Why are all these reports coming out now I wonder.

    The agenda is to slash PS wages & slash PS jobs.

    BIFFO is trying to remain popular with the PS by saying the money can be found through efficiency.

    He is a cabbage if he thinks this will do it.

    Again I remind people that even after the cuts the deficit is €20 billion or the entire cost of the PS.
    If we sacked all those in the PS and cancelled all pensions we wouldn`t even eliminate the deficit due to loss of taxation & welfare payments that would need to be made.

    We are fooling ourselves.

    You need to re-ignite the private sector to generate the taxes that will pay the public service

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    Quote Originally Posted by politicaldonations View Post
    With the unions call ing "equity" and "fairness" surely they couldnt object to the unfair premium in Ps jobs being removed? Or being benchmarked against UK (with adjustment for different cost of living) would be "Fair"?
    According to Peter McLoone, if unions are to come up with an alternative, then everyone would have to contribute.


    Government looking to pay cuts, pensions and reform for savings - The Irish Times - Mon, Oct 26, 2009

    Nice to know Peter wants fairness for all of us. Maybe he will take the UK figures on board.
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    consulting with unions on what economic measures to take is like consulting a smack addict on what kind of detox programe to set up

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