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    Doug Hoffman is running as an independent in the upcoming NY23 district.

    It is an election with enormous ramifications.

    Obama is heading up to help the democrat candidate.

    If Hoffman can beat both the dem and rep it will definitely finish the GOP.

    The Paulites will be emboldened to call themselves what they are, Constitution Party members. They would be a step closer to success.

    The question is.

    Can history be made and can Hoffman win

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    Palin backs Hoffman in NY-23 - Andy Barr - POLITICO.com


    I knew this could be an important contest.

    Palin has now decided to back Hoffman.

    We could be about to see the end of the GOP right here and now.

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    The 2nd congressman has now gone against the republican party and has endorsed Hoffman.

    Kansas GOP Rep. Tiahrt Endorses Conservative Party's Hoffman In NY-23 | TPMDC

    I am not familiar with this congressman but it is of note that he should break ranks because he is running for the nomination for the Senate seat on 2010. Perhaps he sees the writing on the wall.

    Michelle Bachman has already endorsed him.

    Ron Paul type candidates are stepping forward and I hope they contest all 435 House seats next year.

    To hear Newr Gingrich on the radio defending the party candidate today was laughable. He and his ilk are the problem and they will be flushed out

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    My Way News - Fla. gov's Obama hug lingers in US Senate primary


    We see the same dynamic working in the senate race in Florida for 2010.

    Crist was seen as unbeatable. Well the fact of the matter is people have their fill of these phoney republicans. Especially tanned boy who gave us McCain.

    Rubio has been endorsed by Sens Demint and Inhoff and a slew of lesser figures

    Crist has seen his lead cut from 29 to 15%.

    Hoffman winning would help Rubio emensely and with the other conservative/constitution candidates

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    that doug hoffman race is interesting to say the least - it could backfire and split the Republican party.

    on the other hand , the GOP grassroots might be taking back their party from the moderates.

    either way - its definitely a race to watch. its got an influence Stateside out of all proportion to the actual political power involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mryoungdan View Post
    To hear Newr Gingrich on the radio defending the party candidate today was laughable. He and his ilk are the problem and they will be flushed out
    are you serious? newt has backed the GOP candidate?

    jaysus -thats his reputation fubared in grassroot conservative circles.

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    It is the best oppurtunity even of destroying the old trick of "don't vote for the best candidate as it is giving the seat to the democrat"

    If the democrat gets it then it is not the end of the world. The election will be 1 year away for the full term.

    As long as he beats the RINO that is the important thing.

    Newt Gingrich is just another puppet. His job will be to replace Obama. He is anmost as odius as Rudy Guiliani. I would take Obama over him anyday. At least Obama did not divorce his wife when she was in hospital with cancer.

    Newt is running

    A Newt Gingrich run in 2012? Quite possible but... | Top of the Ticket | Los Angeles Times

    Hopefully conservatives are waking up at last

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    Now I see Pat Buchannan, Dick Armey and Steve Forbes have endorsed Hoffman. What a turn of events.

    The dems have now started running ads against Hoffman. That is just what he needs to lend him credibility.

    It is likely that his republican opponent will crash and burn in the last few days before the election.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/27/ny...pstate.html?hp

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    Fred Thompson, Bachman, Palin, Dick Armey, Pawlenty are behind Hoffman.

    Even if Hofman and Dede loose, the GOP is on notice that leftist democrats endorsed by branches of ACORN are not acceptable.

    Even then, Hoffman will win name recognition that will probably help him win the general election next year (right now they are competing for the remainder of the term on a vacated seat).
    And if he wins, well then, Palin and the conservative movement are in ascendancy, and off to the next local congressional race.

    Overall its a win win situation for the conservatives to support Hoffman (in my opinion)

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrejsv View Post
    Fred Thompson, Bachman, Palin, Dick Armey, Pawlenty are behind Hoffman.

    Even if Hofman and Dede loose, the GOP is on notice that leftist democrats endorsed by branches of ACORN are not acceptable.

    Even then, Hoffman will win name recognition that will probably help him win the general election next year (right now they are competing for the remainder of the term on a vacated seat).
    And if he wins, well then, Palin and the conservative movement are in ascendancy, and off to the next local congressional race.

    Overall its a win win situation for the conservatives to support Hoffman (in my opinion)
    Thats as may be but in terms of National spread if you expung the moderates from the republican party or worse cause a split you will guarantee Democratic control of Congress and the presidency indefinately. The freepers (conservative movement) just do not have the numbers. Bush had to carry a huge number of moderates with him and he had bloated patriotism to hide behind and still barely got relected.

    You should be careful what you wish for.
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