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    Fine Gael and Labour together, according to the polls have the backing of the majority of the Irish Public and could precipitate a General Election if they wanted to.

    Together they could state that they would not honour any NAMA legislation enacted by the current Government and that they would found a new State Bank if elected to office.

    By boycotting the Dail, by Enda Kenny and Eamon Gilmore holding public meetings all over the country, by organised protests, FG & Labour could take control of the country. It's obvious to many that they do not have the stomach.

    The only logical conclusion is that for all their rhetoric, Fine Gael & Labour do not want to hold office at this time.

    All their opposition on TV and Radio is just another act of deception.

    "A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds."
    Cowardice asks the question - is it safe? Expediency asks the question - is it politic?
    Vanity asks the question - is it popular? But Conscience asks the question - is it right?
    And there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular;but one must take it simply because it is right. -MLK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destiny's Soldier View Post
    Fine Gael and Labour together, according to the polls have the backing of the majority of the Irish Public and could precipitate a General Election if they wanted to.

    Together they could state that they would not honour any NAMA legislation enacted by the current Government and that they would found a new State Bank if elected to office.

    By boycotting the Dail, by Enda Kenny and Eamon Gilmore holding public meetings all over the country, by organised protests, FG & Labour could take control of the country. It's obvious to many that they do not have the stomach.

    The only logical conclusion is that for all their rhetoric, Fine Gael & Labour do not want to hold office at this time.

    All their opposition on TV and Radio is just another act of deception.

    "A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds."
    They are democrats honouring the will of the people as demonstarted at the last GE. While it is clear that the people have now changed their views on the present office holders, maybe the honourable thing to expect is for FF to resign in recognition of that change. If the grubby deal they have cobbled together with the Greens is anything to go by, FF are still a bunch of 'me feiners', nothing more, nothing less. All we can expect from them is whatever is in their interests and not the countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destiny's Soldier View Post
    By boycotting the Dail, by Enda Kenny and Eamon Gilmore holding public meetings all over the country, by organised protests, FG & Labour could take control of the country
    No they couldn't, this isn't Zimbabwe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flavirostris View Post
    No they couldn't, this isn't Zimbabwe.

    Yes they could. They could mobilise protests to force the Govts hand and resign.

    We are very much in the same territory as Iceland. We are talking about acts to preciptating an Election not a military coup.
    Cowardice asks the question - is it safe? Expediency asks the question - is it politic?
    Vanity asks the question - is it popular? But Conscience asks the question - is it right?
    And there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular;but one must take it simply because it is right. -MLK

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    Destiny - we have elections here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ergo2 View Post
    Destiny - we have elections here.
    Yes and I repeat, why not bring about an election.

    Do you want to be shackled to €90Bn worth of PRIVATE debt?
    Cowardice asks the question - is it safe? Expediency asks the question - is it politic?
    Vanity asks the question - is it popular? But Conscience asks the question - is it right?
    And there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular;but one must take it simply because it is right. -MLK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destiny's Soldier View Post
    Yes and I repeat, why not bring about an election.

    Do you want to be shackled to 90Bn worth of PRIVATE debt?
    It's your own muppets who want to do this, I presume you've left FF in protest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destiny's Soldier View Post
    Fine Gael and Labour together, according to the polls have the backing of the majority of the Irish Public and could precipitate a General Election if they wanted to.

    Together they could state that they would not honour any NAMA legislation enacted by the current Government and that they would found a new State Bank if elected to office.

    By boycotting the Dail, by Enda Kenny and Eamon Gilmore holding public meetings all over the country, by organised protests, FG & Labour could take control of the country. It's obvious to many that they do not have the stomach.

    The only logical conclusion is that for all their rhetoric, Fine Gael & Labour do not want to hold office at this time.

    All their opposition on TV and Radio is just another act of deception.

    "A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds."
    FG and Labour refuse to behave like the fringe political movements and strip themselves and those they are mandated (and expected) to represent of representation? At the end of the day both parties have to serve those who elected them by participating in the democratic process, for now as oppostion. There is no opt out.

    Neither FG and Labour are the SWP. SWP can refuse to take Dail seats, because they don't have any. SWP can refuse to back NAMA, because they were not asked. SWP can refuse to partake in parlimentry democracy, because they have no place in said system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destiny's Soldier View Post
    Yes they could. They could mobilise protests to force the Govts hand and resign.

    We are very much in the same territory as Iceland. We are talking about acts to preciptating an Election not a military coup.
    Like many FFers, you haven't a clue child.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Supermanpolitician View Post
    Like many FFers, you haven't a clue child.


    Rather than whine about me and sidestep the elephant in the room, it would be quite easy for FG especially, to organise a protest against NAMA. Like the farming community getting up in arms about milk prices etc etc.

    By their inaction, we can only conclude they are tacitly in agreement with FF policy at this time.

    They should stop engaging in a grotesque act of deception.

    According to some, protest is now only something associated with Zimbabwe.
    Cowardice asks the question - is it safe? Expediency asks the question - is it politic?
    Vanity asks the question - is it popular? But Conscience asks the question - is it right?
    And there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular;but one must take it simply because it is right. -MLK

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