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    Default The Fair Deal - Harney delivers again

    Ireland's most effective Government Minister, Mary Harney, has hacked her way through another morass of public sector inertia and finally delivered the Fair Deal Nursing Home charges scheme, which will officially begin on Oct 22nd.

    Its a bit late, and not everyone is going to get in on the first round, but this scheme is going to lift a huge burden from families all around the country who are dealing with financial hardship arising from private nursing home charges.

    In 5 years, she's nuked the Health Boards, she's delivered a new Consultants Contract, a new Pharmacists Contract, the National Cancer Strategy, the Fair Deal, she's faced down the nurses and Ireland has moved from 26th to 13th in the Powerhouse European Consumer Health Index.

    That's probably more than the last 5 FF/FG/Lab Health Ministers combined.
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    Straight question goosebump - are you qtman?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fr. Hank Tree View Post
    Straight question goosebump - are you qtman?
    I don't understand the question...
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    Never mind. It's amazing how under apppreciated she is if she's as great as you say...something's gone amiss there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fr. Hank Tree View Post
    Never mind. It's amazing how under apppreciated she is if she's as great as you say...something's gone amiss there...

    I can understand full well why she is the subject of such vilification, but in terms of actually making a difference to the area of policy which she controls, she certainly can't be accused inertia.

    Its actually quite remarkable what someone who isn't tied into a large political party that has to watch its step in every parish in the country can achieve.
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    Lets see there was smokeless fuel and then she sorted out, eh, wait now.
    A/E waiting times, no no, private beds saving us, no no, cut out the nonsense and ran an efficient flat management model health service that was patient centered, no no. Built a childrens hospital, no no. Em? What did she do that was any use at all, she had the largest budget any minister in the history of the state has had, and we have stealing your house or a bit of it to be tied to a chair in some kip.

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    People will never be happy with the health service, because it is where their relatives go to die, so it can never be good enough. There is no country that is happy with its health service. Harney is at least trying to make what we have affordable.

    We also have the problem of the Ronan Lyons Pie Chart: http://www.ronanlyons.com/2009/07/20...bord-snip-nua/ - people genuinely think the bulk of health spending is on bureaucrats and that a magic bureaucrat-elimination wand would free up billions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-ray View Post
    Lets see there was smokeless fuel and then she sorted out, eh, wait now.
    A/E waiting times, no no, private beds saving us, no no, cut out the nonsense and ran an efficient flat management model health service that was patient centered, no no. Built a childrens hospital, no no. Em? What did she do that was any use at all, she had the largest budget any minister in the history of the state has had, and we have stealing your house or a bit of it to be tied to a chair in some kip.
    Or of course, we could just rant hysterically...
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    Quote Originally Posted by goosebump View Post

    In 5 years, she's nuked the Health Boards,.
    If you define nuked as leaving thousands of bureaucrats doing no or very little work, she's nuked them alright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dresden8 View Post
    If you define nuked as leaving thousands of bureaucrats doing no or very little work, she's nuked them alright.
    The HSE was always going to take at least 10 years to bed in. At least, she had to bottle to kick it off. And now we have the requisite fiscal emergency to cut away the fat.
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