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    Call for Nama ban on developers - The Irish Times - Tue, Sep 15, 2009

    The State's largest housing charity today demanded top builders and developers be kept out of consultations on the State’s bad bank scheme.

    The Respond group said representatives from the Construction Industry Federation (CIF) should be barred from Nama discussions because they would only promote their members’ interests.

    “We have witnessed a massive push in the past week by certain developers and the CIF to influence politicians with regard to the legislation establishing Nama,” Respond spokeswoman Aoife Walsh said.

    "In the role the CIF and its members played in the current economic crisis, this is simply unacceptable.”
    “A healthy social life is found only, when in the mirror of each soul the whole community finds its reflection, and when in the whole community the virtue of each one is living” R. Steiner

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    Hell YES!!!

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    good point. Country Tom and his cronies should be told where to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Factorem View Post
    good point. Country Tom and his cronies should be told where to go.
    That's not what he thinks:

    The CIF, whose director general Tom Parlon last week expressed keenness to make an input on Nama, dismissed Respond’s calls as extremely short-sighted.
    “The industry has a key role to play in the workout being proposed by Nama and in the longer-term development and growth of the economy,” a spokesman said.
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    You mean the State's largest housing charity and the Construction Industry Federation both think that the developers have something to gain from NAMA? That just cannot be true, Hal and Goosebump told us so

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    Parlon shouldn't be let near: he's not a developer. The idea that Government has not consulted with developers on NAMA is deeply worrying. All of the development professions should be consulted. They will without a doubt identify flaws and disfunctionalities in the NAMA procees as proposed. This doesn't mean they should be given an inch.

    The reason the Evoting Machine fiasco happened was because Government didn't listen to the people in Ireland who were telling them what the problems were and instead paid millions to consultants who of course messed up.

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    But FF = CIF , so ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digout View Post
    But FF = CIF , so ?

    Yes, I wouldn't have the CIF in. I'd get the developers in in person and make them sweat over the Bill and thrash it out in groups, to find the flaws and catches in it that will stop it working. I wouldn't pay them and I wouldn't give them any concessions.

    I'm in dread with the expensive hames FF is going to make of this - just think of the Tribunals - they were straightforward in comparison with this.

    To be honest, I'm beginning to think a straightforward developer bailout (interest holiday for up to four years say) would have been much cheaper than NAMA. The State has an appalling record in land management - Coillte, the IDA, the OPW you name it.

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    They don't need to be involved- they can just call their mates and head for a pint.

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    By the same logic corporations should be banned from campaigning for change to our Constitution.
    "It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." - Upton Sinclair.

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