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    Can anyone remember when we last had a discussion of music or the other performing arts within this forum? Especially considering the contribution of Irish music to tourism and our economy. Must sit down some time and write stuff down.

    Anyway, there's a meeting in the University Concert Hall in Limerick next Monday if anyone's around. Discussion topics include "Getting Out The Vote" in the run up to the election, a report from the Arts and Education Committee (an important joint initiative between the Department of Arts, Sports and Tourism and the Department of Education), a report on the Local Music Education Partnerships and the findings of the Arts Council's recent Contemporary Music Review. There will also be information updates on the Federation of Music Collectives becoming First Music Contact, the Arts Council's DEIS funding scheme for the Traditional Arts, and a discussion of the "Challenges in Higher Education".

    If you'd like more information about the meeting let me know, it'd be great to have some p.ie types there, especially those with an interest in arts and/or education.

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    As you can see, there has been massive interest shown in this subject by Irelands boldest and brightest.

    Someone should remind them that Fionn MacCumhall would not allow a young warrior into his army unles they could recite poetry, sing songs and play music.

    Without going too highbrow, there is a great exhibition opening up in Collins Barracks Museam. Its a collection of electric guitars on show that were used by some of Ireland's and indeed, the world's, greatest guitar players.
    Rory Gallagher, Phil Lynott, Jimi Hendricks etc are all represented.

    Worth a look this weekend. Free of Charge, as usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hiker
    Someone should remind them that Fionn MacCumhall would not allow a young warrior into his army unles they could recite poetry, sing songs and play music.
    Much like being a national school teacher.
    "Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative."
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    Quote Originally Posted by eurocrat
    Quote Originally Posted by hiker
    Someone should remind them that Fionn MacCumhall would not allow a young warrior into his army unles they could recite poetry, sing songs and play music.
    Much like being a national school teacher.
    Ah yeah, but can a national school teacher run thru the forest, buck naked and skewer a wild boar on the rampage, without breaking a single twig on the ground?

    Well, huh, huh, huh........

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    The conference was covered by Artszone on Saturday, you can download it from their website. The relevant section starts 2' 40" into the programme.

    I thought Evelyn raised some very good points - how many people in this country can say that music has never touched them in some way? The Forum tries to represent all genres of music (yes rockofcashel, even the bubblegum stuff!)

    Local music education is essential. Music Network completed a feasibility study in 2003 on behalf of the Arts Council, as a result of which two pilot projects were set up. These projects were incredibly successful - now we need to roll this out to all local areas.

    She highlighted the number of votes there are in music - (nearly) every parent in the country wants their children to have the opportunity to learn music, yet only half the schools in the country offer it as an option in secondary school.

    The foundation of the Arts and Education Committee is a very positive step, but the concern is that it will be yet another committee passing up more reports that will then be ignored.

    The one area that I think needs more focus is the music industry and its importance to the Irish industry. It was addressed in a conference in DIT Rathmines last year 'The Economic and Social Significance of the Performing Arts', and I'll be pushing for that to be highlighted again at the next plenary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hiker
    Quote Originally Posted by eurocrat
    Quote Originally Posted by hiker
    Someone should remind them that Fionn MacCumhall would not allow a young warrior into his army unles they could recite poetry, sing songs and play music.
    Much like being a national school teacher.
    Ah yeah, but can a national school teacher run thru the forest, buck and skewer a wild boar on the rampage, without breaking a single twig on the ground?

    Well, huh, huh, huh........
    Is it in the contract of employment, is there a safety statement, insurance, and a notice of compliance with Health and Safety Regs. been provided and most importantly has a partnership committee made a benchmarking award for these extraciricular activities that you mention!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hiker

    Ah yeah, but can a national school teacher run thru the forest, buck naked and skewer a wild boar on the rampage, without breaking a single twig on the ground?
    Thats an optional module on the HDip.
    "Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative."
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    Any chance we could actually address the issue of the arts in Ireland? Or are you determined to continue giving sports the priority over them? They're just as important

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    Quote Originally Posted by tumeltyni
    Local music education is essential. Music Network completed a feasibility study in 2003 on behalf of the Arts Council, as a result of which two pilot projects were set up. These projects were incredibly successful - now we need to roll this out to all local areas.
    I'm a bit conflicted here. I've had this idea of incorporating into the PD website a shop that would sell Irish music, poetry and other artistic paraphanalia that would ties us into that element of Irish society in the way the Sinn Fein website sells H-Block paraphanalia etc.

    but,

    I felt a bit dirty trying to piggyback on artistic endevours of others even if the idea was just to promote Irish music and poetry.

    Question: Should music or indeed art be intertwined into politics directly? Should we politicise music or art?

    I sincerely beleive that politics needs poetry and music. I dont believe that music and poetry needs politics.

    As you can see, totally confused

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    Quote Originally Posted by tumeltyni
    Any chance we could actually address the issue of the arts in Ireland? Or are you determined to continue giving sports the priority over them? They're just as important

    They are not mutually exclusive. Lots of GAA clubs have traditional music sessions and classes and give Ceolthas the use of their club houses. Not too much demand from Baroque ensembles but I am sure they would not be turned away

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