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ÓSF Travel to Basque Country to Call for End to Oppression

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Two Ógra activists were in the Basque Country last weekend to extend the solidarity of Ógra Shinn Féin to their comrades in SEGI, the Basque nationalist left youth organisation. They were part of an international delegation involving Catalans, Bretons, and Castilians among others.

The young republicans were there to support SEGI, which the Spanish government is trying to ban and whose national leadership was recently sentenced to lengthy prison sentences by a Spanish court. The international delegation read out declaration of support in many languages supporting the right of Basque youth to express their legitimate political opinions.

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Did they have 'I Love Gerry' logos on their pyjamas?
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Did they have 'I Love Gerry' logos on their pyjamas?
i have just been surfing thru posts on this site and i have seen the same old posts from the same old users...

can the 32CSM and other micro organsations not accept that times are changing and that people are sick listening to their crying...
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Did they have 'I Love Gerry' logos on their pyjamas?
i have just been surfing thru posts on this site and i have seen the same old posts from the same old users...

can the 32CSM and other micro organsations not accept that times are changing and that people are sick listening to their crying...[/quote:61tlxsl1]

Can SF not accept that referring to 'Micro organisations' makes them sound arrogant and complacent. I actually prefer SF, for all their flaws to the 32 CSM and RSF, but all this brow beating about how much bigger they are, makes them sound like a pre-pubescent gang of Man United supporters telling supporters of less successful teams that '(insert team name hear) are s-h-i-t!

I guess what I'm trying to say is that while yes, I wish 32CSM and RSF supporters would change the record, some SF people are no better. I know people in OSF, who stopped talking to me since I left. Do I like it? No, but if they want to be petty, so be it. I'm not going to stoop to their level.
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Ladies put the handbags away ffs, and yes thee Ogra SF Lad/Lassies will be supporting their i love Gerry pj's.

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Did they have 'I Love Gerry' logos on their pyjamas?
i have just been surfing thru posts on this site and i have seen the same old posts from the same old users...

can the 32CSM and other micro organsations not accept that times are changing and that people are sick listening to their crying...
Can SF not accept that referring to 'Micro organisations' makes them sound arrogant and complacent. I actually prefer SF, for all their flaws to the 32 CSM and RSF, but all this brow beating about how much bigger they are, makes them sound like a pre-pubescent gang of Man United supporters telling supporters of less successful teams that '(insert team name hear) are s-h-i-t!

I guess what I'm trying to say is that while yes, I wish 32CSM and RSF supporters would change the record, some SF people are no better. I know people in OSF, who stopped talking to me since I left. Do I like it? No, but if they want to be petty, so be it. I'm not going to stoop to their level.[/quote:2naa3cpg]

DOD in a round about way we prob know each other, and can i just state at the outset that my friends are my friends, I have had some friends leave Ogra, and Sinn Fein however I have always kept my friendship with them. I feel that not speaking to someone because of their polictial views is slightly immature...

with that said, the 32CSM, RIRA, CIRA, and the millions of other organistations that have appeared over the years are, if u like it or not, Micro organisations. The only impact that they are having on any sorta of positive progress being made is negative. Take for example the 'bomb' attack on the woman in Sion over the weekend, this is totally wrong. And before I get bombarded with posts about "the ra done it", I know the IRA done it, they know they done it, they also know it was wrong, and are making all the efforts they can to ensure that the pointless loss of life doesnt happen again...
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Only Ogra could start a thread calling for support for Basque youth movements and turn it into condemnation of Irish militant groups. Since last year Basque militant youth have carried out over 300 acts of arson in their campaign of civil disobedience ,and their refusal to allow the normalisation of Spanish dominance. This campaign has become known as Kale Borraka .OSF are the complete opposite, and are little pacified Irish kids who roll over and run around condemning militants and support the police force. Now and again they travel abroad and act the revolutionary. If the Basque kids knew half the shyt that went on here, with PSF collusion with the Crown Forces, condemnation of Irish separatists etc they'd run them out.
BTW, why cant Ogra raise the issue of Anti GFA Republicans being interned in the SCC, or the dismantling of political status in Maghaberry, or harassment of 32csm and rsf activists as well as raising the issues of Basque youth.
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DOD in a round about way we prob know each other, and can i just state at the outset that my friends are my friends, I have had some friends leave Ogra, and Sinn Fein however I have always kept my friendship with them. I feel that not speaking to someone because of their polictial views is slightly immature...
Yes Bacon-Egg, I have you narrowed down to 3 or 4 people I think you may be. I did not mean to indicate for a minute that all OSF people were like that, far from it. I still have many friends in OSF and SF, as indeed I do in parties like FF, that I absolutely despise, so I don't bear any grudges. I'm just pointing out that the likes of 32 CSM and RSF are not the only ones whose members can be petty. Unfortunately some people develop personal grudges based on politics. That is nothing against any organisation, more a reflection on people themselves.
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BTW, why cant Ogra raise the issue of Anti GFA Republicans being interned in the SCC, or the dismantling of political status in Maghaberry, or harassment of 32csm and rsf activists as well as raising the issues of Basque youth.
Good point, of course it is slightly hypocritical unless you also call on those organisations to condemn harassment at whatever level of OSF and SF activists, fair is fair.
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PSF condemn Irish Republican youth whilst travelling thousands of miles to support Basque separatist youth
http://www.derryjournal.com/ViewArticle ... ID=2692823
Does OSF condemn Kale Boraka and the Basque youth's attacks on Spanish interests, or is safe to support something not in your backyard?
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