Speed Limits for Urban Areas | CAN

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We need to radically change every system that has enabled the wholesale destruction of the Irish landscape, rural and urban. There is no time for incremental step by step measures. The systems have failed utterly and the only hope for a real recovery requires the rule book to be torn up completely.

gettin too late for this, but can you answer me two questions.

Do you support the construction of the cross city Luas and Metro North?

Secondly, how can access be maintained for all modes through those 2 streets (half of Dame St/College Green - O'Connell Street) while they are being constructed?

I'll be honest with you. I see no future for any motorised vehicles, apart from deliveries which can be accomodated at certain times, from Dame St/George's St junction to the College St/Westmoreland St junction. It's about 200 yards of our city and a critical space for all people in all vehicles. But the car parks will remain accessible and the most attractive part of the city will be enhanced immeasurably.

Stuff like this has been done all over Europe and is now creeping in to the USA.

I suggest you google Hans Monderman.

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We need to radically change every system that has enabled the wholesale destruction of the Irish landscape, rural and urban. There is no time for incremental step by step measures. The systems have failed utterly and the only hope for a real recovery requires the rule book to be torn up completely.

A spokesman from DCC admitted on radio that this is not a safety issue, it was done to make the city better.

Better, what in blazes does better mean, I forecast that commercial rates may be the first casualty of this nonsense although the garda and now private speed vans will clean up, especially off peak and at night.

Bring back the man with the red flag I say.

Better, these people have too much time on their hands.

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Regards, Pat Gill
My posting name does not indicate my political views
labourure or greenure, do not have the same ding.

Can I ask how you guys would improve Dublin City? Widen the roads?

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We need to radically change every system that has enabled the wholesale destruction of the Irish landscape, rural and urban. There is no time for incremental step by step measures. The systems have failed utterly and the only hope for a real recovery requires the rule book to be torn up completely.

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We need to radically change every system that has enabled the wholesale destruction of the Irish landscape, rural and urban. There is no time for incremental step by step measures. The systems have failed utterly and the only hope for a real recovery requires the rule book to be torn up completely.

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We need to radically change every system that has enabled the wholesale destruction of the Irish landscape, rural and urban. There is no time for incremental step by step measures. The systems have failed utterly and the only hope for a real recovery requires the rule book to be torn up completely.

just some info there on approaches to city centres elsewhere. There's thousands of examples and as usual we're way behind with our "it can't be done here" attitudes

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We need to radically change every system that has enabled the wholesale destruction of the Irish landscape, rural and urban. There is no time for incremental step by step measures. The systems have failed utterly and the only hope for a real recovery requires the rule book to be torn up completely.

An Eastern Bypass to take cars out of the city?

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Vive le Québec libre ! Ag beathú na dtochardán ón mbliain 2007.

(yes its getting too late ) Well at least your honest enough to admit it unlike our councillors... The Problem is Dublins geography
At the moment on the East you have the sea while the only access west involves a ridiculous toll charge and doesn't cover most short journeys or solve the access needed to have a vibrant multi use city centre that attracts all age groups and sections of society..... on this I think we agree .... the problem is the all focus is from an anti car lobby that believe if you remove cars the city centre becomes better....utter rubbish

My 2p worth

Firstly cars ... 2 free tunnel linking North and South of the city under the city center and a proper fast flowing inner ring route , links to the car parks and loading bays which means car users can access and exit the city centre while keeping above ground traffic free

Decent Clean Modern efficient public Transport (like Luas not DB!) thats interlinked both physically and ticketed

But that isn't the end of my gripes ... all the stuff DCC forgets about when talking about city life
How come Cork (Leeds Rome and every street in Paris!!) can manage an affordable everyday shopping veg and meat market while in Dublin they are always expensive designer hippy rubbish
Butchers Veg shops and proper normal shops food to be given rates exemptions to attract them back to the city centre
Withdraw the ridiculous expenses in outdoor seating and food stalls

TBH we agree on much and disagree on more .... problem is the quick cheap easy fix is to demonise motorists as an excuse or to be seen to do something , its lazy and pathetic when in fact its other araes of Transport and Transport planning that need tackiling ,but our councillors are to cowardly to actually go there.... Name one propsal that asks anybody other than car users to compromise.....not a one
The 16 mph proposal is a total joke and on top of the Busgate and Beckett bridge Farce combined with high road tax and expensive road parking never mind the heinous clamping ..... Enough is enough for motorists.... frankly this idea is just brain dead bollox ....

Have you been to Aukland because I was there 2 years ago and it was one of the most disappointing cities Ive ever visited , its city centre is devoid of life at night its dead except for backpackers..... not a good example