Community Led Socialism

[Bob Dylan]

Community Activist
Ógra Shinn Féin

To achieve a 32 County Democratic Socialist Republic. That is what Ógra Shinn Féin stands for and as activists that is what we are fighting and struggling to achieve.

Ógra Shinn Féin believes in building a free Ireland, one which holds equality as a cornerstone and works to empower all citizens.

The Irish people live in communities, as a society we are organised in communities and so if we are to build an alternative, to be truly involved in nation building, we as young republicans need to play an integral part in our local community.

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[Wolverine]

I applaud your objectives. However, it might be worth pointing them out to RockofCashel.

[geraghd]

Im suddenly turning off communities....

[popper]

Originally Posted by Wolverine

I applaud your objectives. However, it might be worth pointing them out to RockofCashel.

Why? ROC sounds like he is very much involved in his community. Indeed I do beleive quite a number of them even vote for him.

[Wolverine]

Originally Posted by popper

Why? ROC sounds like he is very much involved in his community. Indeed I do beleive quite a number of them even vote for him.

He is, however he has a bit of a tendency to bristle when called a socialist, or even a leftist.

One would think that being part of an organisation calling for a 32 County Socialist Republic would make you something of a Socialist, but apparently not.

[zakalwe]

bob,

its friday, shouldn't you be in the campus bar chasing female freshers?

[popper]

Originally Posted by Wolverine

He is, however he has a bit of a tendency to bristle when called a socialist, or even a leftist.

One would think that being part of an organisation calling for a 32 County Socialist Republic would make you something of a Socialist, but apparently not.

I'd imagine there are lots of people in SF and a large number of their supporters who are not socialists. I don't think ROC is in danger of being expelled because of that. Besides, a lot of people who call themselves socialists are really liberals. There are very few socialists left, as in people who support the expropriation of private property and its replacement by state ownership or some other form of collective ownership.

[Wolverine]

I'd imagine there are lots of people in SF and a large number of their supporters who are not socialists. I don't think ROC is in danger of being expelled because of that

I'd actually agree with that, but on that Sinn Fein should change it's stated objectives. They can't complain about being labelled socialists if they have socialism as one of their objectives.

Still, good luck to OSF in their aims. I'll watch and see what comes out of it.

[popper]

Originally Posted by Wolverine

I'd actually agree with that, but on that Sinn Fein should change it's stated objectives. They can't complain about being labelled socialists if they have socialism as one of their objectives.

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But how many "socialists" in reality aspire to "the common ownership of the means of production, distribution and exchange" these days?

If not many then it is only a harmless self description, mainly for people who if the y lived in the US would be Clinton Democrats.

[farnaby]

Originally Posted by Bob Dylan

The Irish people live in communities, as a society we are organised in communities

Increasingly we don't and we're not. We live on housing estates for as long as it takes to afford to move to a bigger house in another housing estate. We work with people who live 20-100 miles away from us, and increasingly know our international colleagues better than our own neighbours. We shop in shopping centres and retail parks driving distance from our homes.

I would love to live in a community, they sound great. But the premise of this laudable objective is, to me, false.