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Killian Forde confirms to Politics.ie that he has resigned from Sinn Fein

This is a discussion on Killian Forde confirms to Politics.ie that he has resigned from Sinn Fein within the Sinn Féin forums, part of the Political Parties category on Politics.ie. Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach I only heard the one on Newstalk. The jist of it was that the leadership tries ...

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Old 10th January 2010
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I only heard the one on Newstalk. The jist of it was that the leadership tries to micromanage too much within the party rather than giving its elected representatives a degree of freedom e.g. telling him to vote against the budget on Dublin City Council.
I heard that interview as well and he failed to give a coherent answer as to why he resigned. (Though it is not easy on that programme as the presenter wants to spend the entire time giving her opinions).


Oddly, he didn't mention that Labour should gain many Dails eats in the next GE and are short of good candidates.
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The odd thing about all of this is that if the people leaving SF were all of a type then the party could adopt one approach to counteract the problem. Thing is they're not, Christ Burke is the classic old stager, long term activist, Killian Forde is in some sense the smart young whipper-snapper that was being groomed for big times, Louise Minihan appeared to be one of the family friendly steady party stalwart bread and butter type local reps. When the people leaving are such a diverse bunch, and the common factor is SF then the problem lies more than likely with SF not them.
I think it simply indicates that it is not to do with Sinn Fein adopting a wrong set of policies as they resigned for a variety of reasons and held a variety of positions. In all of this Sinn Féin can expect to replace those who leave as there are always plenty of highly able people willing to work for and stand for Sinn Féin
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Labour are running Dermot Lacey though, aren't they?

He's the presumtive candidate according to any Labour person I've spoken to.

And the current Labour councillor in Donaghmede topped the poll in June, Killian took the third seat.

So I think the mayoralty might be a seriously long shot.

That said, Killian is exceptionally articulate are very likeable, I'd be surprised if Labour didn't put him to good use.

Hi David,

Just saw this post in amongst all the commentary about Killian. First of all though I would very much welcome Killian into Labour if he joins us. He is a progressive individual committed to making a real difference and he would have a welcome home and role in Labour.

In relation to your own posting above while I have made it very clear that i would like to do the job I would not be so presumptive. We have a number of potential quality candidates for this post. I would like to go before a Convention for this and obviously would like to win but i d have respect for my fellow members and hope to speak with as many as I can in the coming months about my views on the role and potential for a Mayor of and for Dublin.

Well done on the scoop by the way
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Unfortunately we have very little meat on the bones. If he was to state 'I proposed this to ...' and 'I suggested this' was the way forward then it is possible to weigh up what he has been saying against an alternative view.

There is no doubt that the broad church that was Dublin SF has unravelled with people moving on to alternative parties or cliques. As the party has stalled and in fact gone backwards in Dublin those people who joined the party post GFA (while the party was on the way up) now appear not to have the stomach to lead the reinvigoration that the party in Dublin needs.
I got my hands on a document today that was sent to the officer board of Dublin SF after the June elections, and did make a set of proposals. From what I can determine, few if any of them have been acted upon, and no response was provided to the author.

I've quoted those recommendations and given my own brief analysis as an outsider looking in on a post entitled Sinn Féin problems in Dublin
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I think it simply indicates that it is not to do with Sinn Fein adopting a wrong set of policies as they resigned for a variety of reasons and held a variety of positions. In all of this Sinn Féin can expect to replace those who leave as there are always plenty of highly able people willing to work for and stand for Sinn Féin
But why was this basically middle class brat who wouldnt have touched Sinn Fein with a barge pole in all probability when it was important (i.e. when the war was going on) appointed? You should be glad be left....But losing the likes of Christie Burke should make you think seriously.
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Killian will be sitting with the labour party at the council meeting tomorrow night.
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Killian will be sitting with the labour party at the council meeting tomorrow night.
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I suppose one should congratulate the Labour party on their "coup" here(they just pipped FG).I think SF were asleep when Labour supported Killian as chair of the finance committee they shoul have seen what was around the corner.Word has it that labour still have one SF concillor in their sites.
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I suppose one should congratulate the Labour party on their "coup" here(they just pipped FG).I think SF were asleep when Labour supported Killian as chair of the finance committee they shoul have seen what was around the corner.Word has it that labour still have one SF concillor in their sites.
A dublin SF councillor?
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A dublin SF councillor?
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