well said keith, and for the record the 'message, hasnt been lost by real ff'ers...........I take on board the view that 2 jurastictions, 2 different methods of election are hard to allign...........

however, we shouldnt mistake the real reason for sf southern ireland meltdown....their natural supporters in the south were far from democratic individuals with a zest to change/formulate policy.............whilst their 'newbies' moved on as change wasnt quick enough (indeed you only effect change on the inside, ala gp)...

A combination of labour and ff will wipe out their dail chances in dublin, next election, although to ensure crowe doesnt re-emerge, ff will have to find someone for dsw and quick....

Would you ever change you tune turns out Adams was protecting a paedo, ye are in shambles in Cork with senior people packing it in all over the place down there and Jonathan O'Brien not running in the next GE , 3 reps have left ye in Dublin and that is before more stories are going to come out about ye in tomorrows papers. The only thing saving your bacon right now is the DUP'S troubles and what does that say ??? it says people only see ye as an Northern party.

Lets all kneel towards Belfast and say our prayers
There is nothing wrong with SF nothing at all everything is well all is good nothing to see here ,Adams Ahkbar there is no party but SF .there is no party but SF there is no party but SF , SF are great.

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Killian Forde joining our party - Labour source

A senior Labour party member has confirmed to me that they understand that Killian Forde will be joining them following his resignation yesterday from Sinn Fein (which P.ie broke last night).

Killian Forde will not comment on the issue presently, and I asked the Labour press office to confirm or deny it, they responded firstly saying they'd get back to me, and then shortly after texted me saying they wouldn't comment on the specific case.

However, the person who confirmed it is reliable and trustworthy, but asked not to be named as the source.

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Thanks for this info. I wish him well. There are many in Labour with progressive left wing values.

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RIRA/CIRA not in my name "They are traitors to the island of Ireland” Martin McGuinness
"All people are entitled to full cultural and social equality" Mary Lou McDonald

Not very many people, though.

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"Elite - a small superior group; esp one that has a power out of proportion to its size." (Oxford English Dictionary)

The majority cannot therefore be the elite.

SF should return to its natural Irish Republican base

- which is based on the removal of Foreign power from Ireland

- and the establishment of a 32 County Irish Republic that upholds the interests and welfare of the Irish People.

Sinn Fein = Ourselves Alone

Ireland for the Irish

Country First

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Catalpa, cut the racism and stay on topic.

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None involved I assure you.

But will try harder to stay on topic....

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Can anyone hazard a good guess as to what is happening in Sinn Fein. So many resignations and so much open conflict suggests they are in meltdown as a hardline party.Will there be a breakaway group with violence the No1 aim ?

Good on him. an actual politician with some political morals. how hypocritical of him would it have been for him to have voted against the budgets he presided over in committee level. Our party just does not see that, and is more intent on playing blind party politics, than stepping back for a second from the situation and understanding his position.

I think i might join him in leaving the party to be honest, and judging by a few text I've received this morning, it doesn’t seem like im alone.... I don’t think our party realises how close we might have been to have had a new wave of dedicated politicians in effective decision making roles in local and national government both here and in the 6 counties. Any progressive types I know in out party are well pissed off, and if are not leaving, are certainly no longer playing an active role.

Now .. Off to learn that internationale, or whatever is those pesky Trotskyites sing these days !!

Buzz