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George Lee: A Courageous Dissenter

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careerist opportunists? Is that somebody who sees an easy chance to make a new career?
No. I was referring to Fine Gael jumping on George's coat-tails only to shaft him when they got a sniff of power.
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Actions speak louder than words.
His act of dissent with the status quo shows courage.
He was a politician. Famously dissident politicians are those who acted , spoke and argued politically against the status quo.
Didn't like the PD's but can you imagine if Des O'Malley had "stood by the republic" by walking off the stage?
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The people gave him a landslide because they believed he could make a difference to the dire state of our economy - but the power-hungry sycophants in Fine Gael were having none of it, they hoodwinked George and shanghaied the people of Dublin South in a selfish quest for political supremacy.
He seems to have the bizarre notion that he was elected to the position of State Economist. He wasn't. The people voted for him to be their representative in the Dail. He failed them.
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He was a politician. Famously dissident politicians are those who acted , spoke and argued politically against the status quo.
Didn't like the PD's but can you imagine if Des O'Malley had "stood by the republic" by walking off the stage?
If only.
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He deserves all our thanks for showing the Dail as a club of wasters putting on a show to fool the electorate
You seem to have missed the minor detail that the electorate are responsible for the membership of the Dail.
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Being elected to the Dail is a huge honour, and jacking it in after 19 weeks is an affront to the people Lee promised he would represent. How is telling the people who elected you that you can't be bothered representing them anymore (particularly when you have your eye on a plum job in RTE) in any way honourable?
If that's how you feel about George Lee, you must be really, really fuming about the following:
  • Fianna Fáil, for deciding not to move the writ in by-elections, meaning whole constituencies miss out on a TD for months on end
  • Various retiring TDs who have essentially given up on the job but still draw a paycheque instead of resigning.
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Take a good look at what is left in Irish Politics. Loook at what type of person rises to the top.

Cowan, Coughlan, O'Dea, Lenihan, Harney, Dempsey etc. Not an ounce of honour amongst them. All institutionalised 100%. Lifers on the gravy train.

That's the way it's always been; sh1t floats and gold sinks.
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He certainly does look like a quitter now.
Fail: he's an honourable man with his character intact: only the jilted blue-shirts see him as a quitter - sour grapes perchance?

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If he does go back to RTÉ this impression will become indelible.
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Lee's defiant act of dissent has permanently marked him out from the droves of cronies, yes-men and party faithful that choke the Oireachtas as a man of character who will serve the people or be damned.

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Deaclan deB of the Irish Times just suggested George Lee could run for Dublin Mayor; though I am profoundly opposed to the creation of this mayoral position, I would reconsider if Lee announced his candidacy.
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He seems to have the bizarre notion that he was elected to the position of State Economist. He wasn't. The people voted for him to be their representative in the Dail. He failed them.
NO.
Fine Gael failed them.
The landslide win for George Lee demonstrated people's need to believe in something. But instead his popularity was neutralized by a cynical bunch of power-grubbing wannabes.
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NO.
Fine Gael failed them.
The landslide win for George Lee demonstrated people's need to believe in something. But instead his popularity was neutralized by a cynical bunch of power-grubbing wannabes.
While I agree totally with your take on what Lee's win did, I am not sure that your discription of FG is accurate.

Cynical? Yes

Wannabes? Yes, but not for power. Cozy status quo seems more like their ambition. They are demonstrating no desire to take charge and lead us out of FF disasters. Like government back-benchers (front bench too, for that matter) they are over-paid, devoid of balls and an insult to us idiots who elect and put up with them.
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