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George Lee: A Courageous Dissenter

This is a discussion on George Lee: A Courageous Dissenter within the Oireachtas forums, part of the General Discussion category on Politics.ie. Originally Posted by meriwether I heard Leo Varadkar stole George's blankey, and wouldn't give it back. Thats the root of ...

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I heard Leo Varadkar stole George's blankey, and wouldn't give it back. Thats the root of the problem.

Is George Lee a suicidal 14 year old, or an economist and a legislator?

If he had concerns, he should have brought them to Kenny, and had it out.

I believe thats what normal people do.

Kenny can't spend his time looking for clear signs of dissatisfaction in his 50 TD's and 15 Senators.
This isn't secondary school.
You're probably right that Lee could have and should have made his dissatisfaction clearer, and set out in writing to Kenny how he expected different treatment. Instead, he seems to have bottled things up and stewed on it.

That said, it has been fairly clear for a long time that Lee was dissatisfied. It shows poor judgment on the part of the FG leadership that this state of affairs was not addressed and allowed to develop as it did.

Fine Gael want to lead the country, which is a fairly complicated and demanding task. It's reasonable that people look at this latest c0ck-up and ask whether FG are up to it.
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Absolute bunkum !!!

George sat in his room like the oracle at delphi waiting for the lessor mortals to come to him so he could bestow his great wisdom upon them. He sulked whilst the rest of Fine Gael ignored him and got on with their own jobs. When he was finally fed up - he balanced his life as a politician with the 6 figure salary and cushy number that he had waiting for him in RTE and decided that the easy life was more important than fighting the good fight.

He didn't even have the balls to be honest and just say that he had underestimated the difficulty of the political life - oh no - none of that for George - it was all the other guys fault !! Why didn't they come and ask for his knowledge? Why didn't they fawn at his feet? How dare they continue without his completely invaluable and infallible insight. It wasn't up to him to go to them !! Surely they understood - they must come to him and ask him for enlightenment !

Georgie then picked up his ball and his rattle and his soother and his blankie and went back over the his pals in RTE for a group hug. There there Georgie, there there
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Fine Gael want to lead the country, which is a fairly complicated and demanding task.
Do they really ?

I often wonder.

Millions of voters have been shafted by FF & are looking for someone reasonable to vote for (i.e not the greens, shinners, labour or lunatic fringe). FG seem unwilling to give them a choice.

My Advice - dump kenny by the side of the road somewhere & bring back Dukes.
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Apart from dissenting with his party about how they were treating him how exactly did he show dissent? Did he speak out against policies that FG had and that he disagreed with? Where exactly did he show courage?
If he had said something to the effect that he had made a mistake, that politics was not for him, and that he ws going back to hsl old job that would have been courageous.
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Now there's a word you don't encounter very often in Irish politics: "honourable". In fact honour is such a scarce characteristic in Irish politics (you could count on one hand the number of similar cases).
Being elected to the Dail is a huge honour, and jacking it in after 19 weeks is an affront to the people Lee promised he would represent. How is telling the people who elected you that you can't be bothered representing them anymore (particularly when you have your eye on a plum job in RTE) in any way honourable?
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He did live a lie. Did he tell the electorate in the run up to the bye election that he had only taken a leave of absence for 12 months and if it didn't go his way, he would jack it in and return to RTE?

Everyone should have known that and what is more, when the 12 months were up he could have applied for a second 12 months, He deserves all our thanks for showing the Dail as a club of wasters putting on a show to fool the electorate, Everyone of them only interested is minding their seats until they can hand it over to a member of the family in the next generation, It is sickening to see Fine Gael knifeing him now after their lack lustre performance for the last 12 months with the country on its knees,

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yadda yadda [various conjecture and hyperbole]... decided that the easy life was more important than fighting the good fight.
Balderdash. Fine Gael prevented him from fighting the good fight - he had a right to respond to their political stonewalling, and he did. I hope Lee chooses to re-enter the ring either as a chief economic news correspondent or as a candidate in the next GE.

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Georgie then picked up his ball and his rattle and his soother and his blankie and went back over the his pals in RTE for a group hug. There there Georgie, there there
Sheesh, you guys should work on some new material,
embellishing Varadkar's hackneyed quips makes you look like a bunch of parroting stooges.
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Everyone should have known that and what is more, when the 12 months were up he could have applied for a second 12 months, He deserves all our thanks for showing the Dail as a club of wasters putting on a show to fool the electorate, Everyone of them only interested is minding their seats until they can hand it over to a member of the family in the next generation,
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It is sickening to see Fine Gael knifeing him now after their lack lustre performance for the last 12 months with the country on its knees,
Yep, Fine Gael have shown themselves to be as cynical a party of careerist opportunists (Kenny, Creighton et al.) as Fianna Fail or the Greens.
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Apart from dissenting with his party about how they were treating him how exactly did he show dissent? Did he speak out against policies that FG had and that he disagreed with? Where exactly did he show courage?
If he had said something to the effect that he had made a mistake, that politics was not for him, and that he ws going back to hsl old job that would have been courageous.
Actions speak louder than words.
His act of dissent with the status quo shows courage.
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careerist opportunists? Is that somebody who sees an easy chance to make a new career?
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