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Robinson Claims 'Unanimous' Support for Policing & Justice Deal

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If the UUP continue to oppose the devolution of P & J it could cause Robinson major problems. However it would also severely embarrass the Conservative Party.

The DUP's Monday night rebels have shown that they don't have the bottle for a Stormont election. But will they go along with the deal on the 9th March?
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The advantage of this deal in that respect is that if it is seen through P & J will be devolved before the Westminister election. The important vote in the Assembly is on March 9th. If it isn't passed Brown will call a Stormont election. I think it will pass but I doubt it'll be unanimous.
That is a massive IF.

I can't understand why Sinn Fein have effectively allowed the DUP to write a get out clause into this, if the 'working group' does not go in it's favour.
Seems to me that SF don't have much stomach for an election either at this time
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That is a massive IF.

I can't understand why Sinn Fein have effectively allowed the DUP to write a get out clause into this, if the 'working group' does not go in it's favour.
Seems to me that SF don't have much stomach for an election either at this time
The working group will rehash the Ashdown proposals.

Barring something unforseen the Assembly vote will pass. Neither Robinson nor Dodds want a Stormont election.
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The working group will rehash the Ashdown proposals.

Barring something unforseen the Assembly vote will pass. Neither Robinson nor Dodds want a Stormont election.
How do you know that?
You were blogging earlier that the PMS would be part of the deal, you arose too early this morning, me thinks. Forgive me if I don't accept you opinion that it will be a rehash of the Asdown proposals

Are these the same principles, that Pat was lambasting me because the SDLP had accepted/approved them?
Sinn Fein could not decide one way or another at that time whether to accept them, why would they be prepared to accept them now.

Like I say, seems SF have no appatite for an election at the moment either, it should have been Policing anf Justice devolved, with no side deals or an early election.
The DUP coming from a weaker position, and suppossedly having more to fear from an early election, have essentially got what they wanted. The Parades commision will be gone by the end of the year.
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You know I ws just thinking that today, RE the SDLP and Westminster, can't see it happening though.
Sinn Féin have to give this idea some consideration. As they won't take their seats at Westminister and probably never will, should they now for tactical reasons remove themselves from Westminister elections thus improving the possibility that other nationalists who will take the seat get elected.

This would neutralise the voting power of Unionists in Westminister and this would have to be a good thing for Nationalists/Republicans.
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Bit unfair on SDLP they are entitled to the new minister as the d'hondt system would suggest! Can u imagion if SF or the DUP were entitled to it? we'd never hear the end of it about mandates and democracy and equality!! That is unless the FM & DFM decide to let Justice prevail in giving them the Justice Portfolio!
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Bit unfair on SDLP they are entitled to the new minister as the d'hondt system would suggest! Can u imagion if SF or the DUP were entitled to it? we'd never hear the end of it about mandates and democracy and equality!! That is unless the FM & DFM decide to let Justice prevail in giving them the Justice Portfolio!
The DUP and Sinn Fein agreed over a year ago not to d'hont this post.
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Anyone got an answer to this? Why should Catholics be targetted but not Jews?
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