Arent you the busy little pup today.
Has your carer left you unattended for a few hours ?

So MI5 are out to attack PSF are they???
Jonathan Powell writes speeches and press releases for PSF leadership.
The British Government fund "community groups" which employ PSF backers only. They also fund PSF's newspaper the Andytown News with grants.
They issue personal firearms to senior PSf people.
They give them "get out of jail" passes for the last 10 years.
They work together in Government structures in Stormont.
They meet regularly in Downing Street.
They stand together on steps, making joint statements condemning acts of resistance.
Try educating yourself ffs.
You're about 15 years out of date with your "we're a radical, anti Establishment party, and MI5 hate us" routine.
MI5 absolutely loves you. They see you as a homegrown bulwark against opposition.

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PSF. Not in my name.

It really does say a lot about the current state of mind, intellect and integrity within PSF that Darkangel and Pat McLarnon are the best representatives that they can muster for the leading political website in Ireland. Looks like most of the brains departed with the principles.

You left out the fact that it is the first time in Irish history that a campaign (sorry your word resistance) has been compromised from inception by British military intelligence.

Though that would be deflecting the thread away from SF and onto the current 'campaign'. Sorry it has already happened. A thread on a former leading IRSP member and now leading light in RNU ends up discussing SF.

This would be because the thread was originated in a vain effort to support the PSF position and subsequently polluted by the inane utterings of one of your comrades.

You have a rather short memory and quite the neck to be drawing attention to compromise and infiltration. I would be suspect that few campaigns in Irish history were as comprehensively infiltrated and compromised as that of the Provos, the fruits of such compromise are clearly apparent. I'm not defending contemporary armed campaigns either, as I don't support them but seriously Pat, your diminishing credibility is rapidly approaching something akin to that of a used condom salesman.

I wonder what happened to Gerry Adams? My personal theory is that when he got involved in the 'peace' process, he started to feel much more at home with a range of British establishment figures than with the Nationalist working class who elected him. He realised he no longer had anything in common with the ordinary man in the street and indeed found them slightly embarrassing. His ruminations about a United Ireland, now have a whimsical and philosophical feel to them and he enjoys delivering his thoughts to American audiences who paradoxically think they're slumming it with 'Mr dangerous Irishman'. I can't help but feel that this whole sorry mess is down to Gerry's lack of formal education and his working class background. Did he feel in some way intimidated by The British establishment? Trimble obviously didn't (indeed, why would he?). Did they flatter him? I suspect they did. Still, the real question is, why is Gerry still revered by Northern Nationalists? Are they fools? Easily satisfied? Did they support his 'gentle' surrender? Or are they just completely and irrevocably broken?

I reckon this hunger strike conspiracy theory started off as an elaborate psy-ops job by the British which has now taken on a life of its own. Those vampires who would rehabilitate Thatcher for motives of political spite are dishonouring the entire republican cause. How many more of them are spies and informers?

The notion that Katayusha's primary agenda here is to establish the truth is totally incredible. The guy wouldn't recognise the truth if it stood next to him farting in an elevator.

The thread was started to discuss the allegations made by the IRSP against Kevin McQuillan. These touch on a number of important issues, notably the continuing role of MI5, the splintered nature of 'dissident' republicanism and yes the credibility of the hunger strike conspiracy tale. That some wish to shut down any discussion of these topics is understandable - given that the truth is without doubt more complex than they would like it to be.

One question intrigues me. Why did the IRSP and RNU try to hush this up?

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What are you blethering about?

You started the thread principally to muddy the waters in regard to the hunger strike debate; that much is clearly evidenced by the direction of your OP. This aim was comprehensively defeated and your approach to the issue is utterly contradictory given that you have accepted that an offer was made, Adams and McGuinness were party to it, the bulk of the Republican Movement were not and the offer was subsequently rejected.

Bleatings about Thatcher rehabilitation, as if such a thing were possible, and MI5 machinations, when the party which you pretend not to support was and most likely still is riddled with MI5 operatives ring very hollow indeed.

The only people who have shown any inclination towards shutting down these discussions are those whom you not-so-covertly represent; those who picketted houses and drove families from their homes, slandered and blackened Richard O Rawe and denied for several years that the offer, which they withheld from the Republican movement leadership, the hunger strikers and their families was ever made. Do you not think that these are people to whom you should be addressing your questions and apparent concerns?

We've already had torpedoed. Now we have comprehensively defeated! You're a legend in your own lunchtime Katie! And as for attempting to muddy the waters....

I devoted half a paragraph of a four paragraph OP to the hunger strike.

I felt this was necessary, not because I'm on a mission to salvage Gerry Adam's reputation, but because you and people like you are trying to pedal what is transparent nonsense as the solemn 'truth'. It is both a complete travesty and an insult to the intelligence and I am happy to point that out.

And as for your faux concerns for the families of the hunger strikers, well pass the sick bucket! I wonder when the IRSP will get round to telling a couple of them that their man on the spot was a tout - unlike Danny Morrison who was fitted up by touts.

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Go ahead and define specifically what you perceive to be "transparent nonsense" so that we can get some indication of what your self-contradictory opinion actually is. Surely you have a clearly defined and evidenced position when you are devoting so much time and effort to this issue.