• Senator Quinn suggests counter-terrorist software should be used to monitor social welfare recipients use of social media

    Senator Feargall Quinn moments ago in the Seanad has suggested that the Government consider monitoring the use of the internet by social welfare recipients to detect instances of fraud. Keywords such as "holiday" and "new car" could indicate instances of fraud, according to Senator Quinn.

    Quinn, speaking during the Second Stage of the Social Welfare and Pensions Bill 2012 in the Seanad, suggested the Government consider a system used in the Netherlands which uses counter-terrorism software to detect keywords used by recipients of social welfare.

    Senator Quinn appeared to be referencing Peter Cluskey's piece in the Irish Times from September of last year (here). A trial in the Netherlands across 10 local authorites uses counter-terrorism software to scan the keywords used in search engines and on social networks to detect fraud.

    The founder of Com-Connect Digitale Opsporing is reported as telling Cluskey that 70% of cases investigated as a result of the monitoring resulted in fraud being uncovered.
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    1. sethjem7's Avatar
      sethjem7 -
      Quote Originally Posted by mctree View Post
      I'm surprised so many are against it. When sensible countries like the Netherlands do things like this then perhaps we should take notice.

      Our welfare bill is €21 billion. 2/3 of what we are actually taking in. If Germany or The Netherlands were spending that percentage of their income on welfare they would really be taking some serious decisions.
      No, I take notice when our civil liberties begin to erode, it always starts somewhere! I don't want to live in a country where the state has a boot in your face!
    1. bonkers's Avatar
      bonkers -
      Quinn was a great business man and treated his staff well in Superquinn. This is absolute nonsense he has come out with.
    1. vanla sighs's Avatar
      vanla sighs -
      Quote Originally Posted by sethjem7 View Post
      I am protesting, what do you think I am worried about?
      Huh?

      I think you misunderstand what I am saying, this is a crazy proposal and he has made himself look incredibly stupid.
    1. Desperate Dan's Avatar
      Desperate Dan -
      Quote Originally Posted by bonkers View Post
      Quinn was a great business man and treated his staff well in Superquinn. This is absolute nonsense he has come out with.
      It gives you an example of the type of conversation the goes on in that little pathetic club.
    1. MacBeth's Avatar
      MacBeth -
      Quote Originally Posted by mctree View Post
      I'm surprised so many are against it. When sensible countries like the Netherlands do things like this then perhaps we should take notice.

      Our welfare bill is €21 billion. 2/3 of what we are actually taking in. If Germany or The Netherlands were spending that percentage of their income on welfare they would really be taking some serious decisions.
      The "sensible" Netherlands is not doing this. And the reason the welfare bill if so high is because smug capitalists and worthless politicians have destroyed the economy and put 300,000 people out of work.
    1. sethjem7's Avatar
      sethjem7 -
      Quote Originally Posted by vanla sighs View Post
      Any evidence Quinn is leeching off the State? Yes, he's a Senator.

      People are protesting and must be worried? Jeses, lol. People are just saying what a total eejit he has made himself look like.
      Quote Originally Posted by sethjem7 View Post
      I am protesting, what do you think I am worried about?
      Quote Originally Posted by vanla sighs View Post
      Huh?
      Sorry Vanla, didn't interpret your post well at all. Apologies!
    1. MacBeth's Avatar
      MacBeth -
      Quote Originally Posted by sethjem7 View Post
      No, I take notice when our civil liberties begin to erode, it always starts somewhere! I don't want to live in a country where the state has a boot in your face!
      If the Germans are doing it then it must be ok. It's not like they've ever got it wrong before.
    1. CookieMonster's Avatar
      CookieMonster -
      I'm all for cracking down of welfare fraud, but this is just ridiculous.

      Anyway, who the hell googles "new car"?
    1. friendlyfire's Avatar
      friendlyfire -
      He wants to look around him over a million wasted for a glass sweet shop on the grounds of the Oireachtas, you and your fellow T.D's and senators have the golden ticket alright.
    1. tommygavin's Avatar
      tommygavin -
      all ye lads on the dole better clear off now for a while
    1. vanla sighs's Avatar
      vanla sighs -
      You can watch the Senate proceedings live here If you're bored. Don't see Quinn, probably gone to get his meds.
    1. statsman's Avatar
      statsman -
      Quote Originally Posted by CookieMonster View Post
      I'm all for cracking down of welfare fraud, but this is just ridiculous.

      Anyway, who the hell googles "new car"?
      A senator?
    1. daveL's Avatar
      daveL -
      Quote Originally Posted by Ren84 View Post
      No wonder his supermarket chain went tits up if this is the sort of bollox he dreams up. For the love of god give us a referendum on abolishing the useless talking shop that is the Seanad now!
      think your wrong there

      but he shouldn't be in the seanad offering advice on anything other than the domestic retail sector
    1. vanla sighs's Avatar
      vanla sighs -
      Quote Originally Posted by sethjem7 View Post
      Sorry Vanla, didn't interpret your post well at all. Apologies!
      No worries.
    1. LamportsEdge's Avatar
      LamportsEdge -
      Quote Originally Posted by friendlyfire View Post
      He wants to look around him over a million wasted for a glass sweet shop on the grounds of the Oireachtas, you and your fellow T.D's and senators have the golden ticket alright.
      I hadn't hear about the million euro sweetshop. Did Donie get the contract for that? Gas lads in the Senate. We might have to amend the old saw about throwing stones around in glasshouses to change to 'Senators throwing gobstoppers around in their own glass sweetshop'.
    1. Desperate Dan's Avatar
      Desperate Dan -
      He hasn't been on the television for some time, maybe he thinks his public have forgotten him, if this is the best, his pr people can come up with,( but then these pr people are getting on as well) maybe he should look for some younger pr to write his speeches, since he does not seem to be up to the task himself.
    1. Jackass's Avatar
      Jackass -
      We should extend the monitoring to cover the Dail and the Senate where there are more fiddles than Waltons music store. Another member of the millionaire club hiding behind an accountant.
    1. MacBeth's Avatar
      MacBeth -
      Quote Originally Posted by Jackass View Post
      We should extend the monitoring to cover the Dail and the Senate. ******************************
      Michelle Mulherin claimed €46,133.39 in expenses during her first year in the Dáil. How can a pointless backbencher accumulate or justify that? Surely there should be an audit of her expenses.

      Five Mayo TDs claimed
    1. LamportsEdge's Avatar
      LamportsEdge -
      Her accountant must be some fornicator in fairness.
    1. LamportsEdge's Avatar
      LamportsEdge -
      Does it really cost a person from Mayo 46,000 euros a year to represent a constituency in the Dail? Or would this be a case of someone treating the allowance ceiling as a target and yelling 'bingo' when she cashes in?
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