• Life during Pregnancy Bill: Coverage of the final Dáil vote

    Oh dear God it's almost over.

    After a resounding win for the pro side last week 138 to 24 today is seen as a formality. The real question is (aside from what's happening internally at FG) is what amendments will be added to the bill.


    The parties are lining up as:

    FF: In favour but allowing a free vote. 13 voted against, 6 for. Regardless of the motivation behind giving the party the free vote, it was certainly the smart thing to do by Martin. All the news this week has been about the FG rebels, partially because of the fact they're in government but also because of the acrimony involved. FF have avoided all that. Again:Martin gets the result he wanted with no infighting. Seems smart to me.
    FG: In favour but maaaan it's been tough for them. 4 TDs voted against it with another 5 threatening today. The party's taken a binary hardline, removing the whip and expelling anyone who voted against it, refusing to allow them stand in 2016. We'll see if it lasts come election time as is it's the toughest line taken by a govt in living memory and they may need the votes. Creighton's expected to vote no after wavering yesterday, her amendments have been dismissed out of hand by the govt and described as "misogynistic" by one perinatal psychiatrist.

    Lab: Heavily in favour, pushing the agenda and their leadership would quite like it to be more liberal. All voted for it.

    SF: Heavily in favour, no noise about the promised repercussions for Peadar Tóibín who was the only one to vote against. Suspect it may just go away.

    These are the 24 TDs who voted against the abortion bill ˇ TheJournal.ie

    There are 160 amendments tabled (mostly from the 24 opposed to it) which indicates 1 of 2 things
    1. The No side want to stall things as much as possible (effectively fillibustering) to give them a complaint that there's been no time to discuss the amendments.
    2. Given many of the amendments are much the same the No side haven't spoken to each other to put down a coordinated opposition to the bill.

    I'm going with the latter as to make a coordinated effort would kill off any hope at all of the FGers getting back in.

    The full list of amendments is here: http://www.oireachtas.ie/documents/b...b6613d-drn.pdf

    The church have made a last ditch attempt to change minds: http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0710/461...on-legislation

    Speaking on RTÉ's Morning Ireland, Archbishop Martin, who is Coadjutor Archbishop of Armagh, made what he described as a "last-minute appeal" for TDs to reconsider supporting the bill.
    "Whatever happens in this vote, the direct and intentional killing of any person is always gravely immoral," he said.
    "Knowingly, willingly and intentionally voting to promote abortion which is the killing of an innocent child is cooperation with evil and cannot be reconciled with your faith".
    He called on TDs to reflect on the enormity of today's vote and said: "This bill will make it permissible, legally, for the killing of an unborn child or the disablement of an unborn child."
    The main points of the bill are here: Main points: Protection of Life during Pregnancy Bill 2013 - Irish News, World News & More | The Irish Times - Thu, Jun 13, 2013

    And the current wording is here:
    http://www.oireachtas.ie/documents/b...613/b6613d.pdf

    Bill entitled an Act to protect human life during pregnancy; to make provision for reviews at the instigation of a pregnant woman of certain medical opinions given in respect of pregnancy; to provide for an offence of intentional destruction of unborn human life; to amend the Health Act 2007; to repeal sections 58 and 59 of the Offences Against the Person Act 1861; and to provide for matters connected therewith

    It's getting quite a bit of international coverage
    http://edition.cnn.com/2013/07/10/wo...ion/?hpt=hp_t3
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/w...march/2495449/
    http://news.sky.com/story/1113796/ir...c-abortion-law

    In terms of protest, 35000 turned up at the weekend to support the No side, there's a Yes meet today outside the Oireachtas. I've no idea on a beautiful day like today why the No side haven't organised a protest outside the gates. Gets lots of coverage at least.
    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/appro...ally-1.1455537
    http://www.politics.ie/forum/events/...wednesday.html

    Coverage of the day's events will be broadcast here: RTÉ News Now: Latest Irish News 6 hours of debate from 12 today with the vote due at 10 tonight.

    Once the final bill is announced we'll update this OP and start a poll on support for its wording.


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