• Éirígí councillor taken to Mountjoy Prison for failure to pay fine related to Harney paint attack

    Éirígí councillor Louise Minihan was arrested at 2pm this afternoon and taken to Mountjoy Prison for failure to pay a fine related to an attack on then-Minister for Health Mary Harney in November 2010. Minihan claims her action was a legitimate political action, and refused to pay the fine on those grounds.

    Minihan was arrested in November 2010 related to an incident at Cherryorchard Hospital in Bellyfermot, she plead not guilty at a hearing in Dublin Circuit Court in January of 2011 and was subsequently found guilty of the charges of assault and fined €1500, a fine which she has refused to pay.

    The confirmation of her arrest this afternoon was from Éirígi themselves, their statement is below.

    Dublin City Councillor Louise Minihan Imprisoned in Mountjoy Prison

    éirígí Dublin City Councillor Louise Minihan was today taken to Mountjoy Prison
    to serve up to seven days imprisonment for her ‘red paint’ protest against
    former Minster for Health, Mary Harney.

    In November 2010 Cllr. Minihan poured diluted red paint over Harney's clothing
    as the ‘Minster for Death’ took part in a publicity stunt on the grounds of
    Cherry Orchard Hospital, which is located in Minihan’s constituency. In
    February 2011 Minihan was handed a two month suspended sentence and a €1,500
    fine following her conviction on charges of assault and criminal damage,
    relating to the Harney protest.

    At the time of her sentencing Minihan informed the court that she had no
    intention of paying the fine, knowing that non-payment would result in her
    imprisonment instead.

    Shortly after 2pm today, Minihan was arrested in her Ballyfermot constituency
    before being transported to Mountjoy where she can be held for up to seven
    days.

    Speaking prior to her arrest, Cllr. Minihan remained defiant saying,

    ‘My protest was a legitimate political action, which should never have been
    brought before the courts. I never intended to pay any court-imposed fine or to
    apologise for my actions. To have done so would have undermined the legitimacy
    of my protest and the wider political struggle against the anti-social policies
    Mary Harney so proudly championed.

    Harney's ideologically driven policy decisions inflicted unnecessary pain and
    suffering on hundreds of thousands of people. There is no doubt that her
    policies resulted in many unnecessary deaths, particularly amongst the most
    vulnerable in our society. Mary Harney has blood on her hands and should hang
    her head in shame.

    My protest was taken in defence of vital services at Cherry Orchard Hospital and
    the wider public health service. During her term as 'Minister for Death' Harney
    chose to run down the public health service, regardless of the resulting human
    misery and suffering. I am proud to have taken a stand in defence of the
    public health service and will be not be deterred by a couple of day’s in
    jail.’

    Minihan concluded by calling for the resignation of the current Minister for
    Health, James Reilly, ‘Since coming to office the current Minister for Health,
    James Reilly, has shown that he is intend on privatising our health service,
    just like Mary Harney before him. Recent revelations have shown that he
    himself stands to financially benefit from such privatisation, making his
    position as Minister for Health totally untenable. He needs to resign from his
    position immediately.

    The time has come for the current two-tier healthcare system to be abandoned.
    The people of this country are entitled to and deserve a first-class public
    healthcare system which treats people on the basis of need and not wealth. Any
    further cutbacks, or attempts to privatise our health system, must be met with
    fierce resistance on our streets and in our communities.'
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    1. The Field Marshal's Avatar
      The Field Marshal -
      Quote Originally Posted by Hooch View Post
      Britain is an island.

      Malta is an island.

      Britain is Malta.
      Alas ,not much hope of an improvement, all your posts have exhibited similar logic.
    1. JamieD's Avatar
      JamieD -
      Quote Originally Posted by Tawdy View Post
      Yes, we can clearly see that your admission of what is beyond you does for you.
      What?
    1. Hooch's Avatar
      Hooch -
      Quote Originally Posted by MacBeth View Post
      Oh get a grip. The hatred was caused by Harney's blatantly pro-rich and unfair health policies. And all she got was a splash of paint.
      It's worth pointing out that paint isn't exactly harmless, if it had gotten in Harney's eyes then there could have been serious damage.
    1. Tea Party Patriot's Avatar
      Tea Party Patriot -
      Quote Originally Posted by The Field Marshal View Post
      Its quite simple.
      Keith M is saying that politicians should not have to face physical attack.

      AFAIK keith M supported the British war declaration of 1939 where one set of democratically elected politicians decided to physically attack another set of democratically elected politicians in Germany.

      To say that politicians should never have to face physical attack flies in the face of all human political history.
      No, Keith M said that: "As bad as our politicians are, they should not have to face physical attack."

      Now Field Marshal, either you are suffering from an extreme form of dyslexia or you consider that politicians in Ireland are like Nazis.
    1. Hooch's Avatar
      Hooch -
      Quote Originally Posted by The Field Marshal View Post
      Alas ,not much hope of an improvement, all your posts have exhibited similar logic.
      Right back at you m'dear.
    1. Tawdy's Avatar
      Tawdy -
      Quote Originally Posted by Tea Party Patriot View Post
      Why didn't the court just stop the money out of her councilors allowance rather than giving her all this publicity at the expense of taxpayers who will have to pay for her holiday incarceration.

      Have you no idea of the can of worms that would open if it was applied across the board. Jailing the plebs is meant to send a message. It would not do to do the same to the ho poli!
    1. Sync's Avatar
      Sync -
      Quote Originally Posted by mary_queen_of_the_gael View Post
      How long would she have to serve before purging her contempt of court?
      I think technically as you're consistently offending every time you refuse you could technically be held indefinitely. If she's insistent on refusing to pay though then sentencing her to the original 2 months inside would seem appropriate.
    1. JamieD's Avatar
      JamieD -
      Quote Originally Posted by Tawdy View Post
      It is the politicians lot to have things thrown at them. That is the consequences of that politicians actions.


      By the by if you are having your PERIOD there is no need to publicise it. My sympathies if it is a painful PERIOD!
      If elected politicians have things thrown at them, then that may be deemed an assault under the law, and if you end up in Mountjoy, you can tell yourself it was justified all you want but that's a consequence of YOUR actions. There's a reason we vote, remember? If you don't like the outcome or the policies, you don't react by throwing your toys out of your pram, OK? I don't like Mary Harney all that much either, but I'd rather see her confronted peacefully than having paint thrown at her by an attention hog.

      BTW, on your Period comment, grow up kid!
    1. culmore's Avatar
      culmore -
      Its the place for her, she broke the law and refused to pay the fine, so Jail is correct,
    1. The Field Marshal's Avatar
      The Field Marshal -
      Quote Originally Posted by Hooch View Post
      It's worth pointing out that paint isn't exactly harmless, if it had gotten in Harney's eyes then there could have been serious damage.
      But but according to you Britain is Malta, therefore in your mind Harney eyes must also be in Malta too and so the paint could never reach that far.

      I told you logic is not your strong point Hooch so please dont try again.
    1. MacBeth's Avatar
      MacBeth -
      Quote Originally Posted by Progress View Post
      This kind of thing starts with a splash of red paint and very soon it's not paint anymore. Perhaps like the symbol that represents you...where did all that lead? So I'm keeping a firm grip on law and order, it's very importaant with the dangerious forces now abroad in Ireland trying to take advantage of this crisis.
      What kind of thing? Are you saying the Irish equivalent of the Baader-Meinhof gang will begin a terror campaign if Louise Minihan isn't kept in prison?
    1. Tawdy's Avatar
      Tawdy -
      Quote Originally Posted by Sync View Post
      I think technically as you're consistently offending every time you refuse you could technically be held indefinitely. If she's insistent on refusing to pay though then sentencing her to the original 2 months inside would seem appropriate.
      As was pointed out in an earlier post she should have been serving her sentence the moment she said she would not pay. Then this OP would not be here and we would have a sensible " Discussion " on another thread.
    1. b.a. baracus's Avatar
      b.a. baracus -
      Quote Originally Posted by MacBeth View Post
      What kind of thing? Are you saying the Irish equivalent of the Baader-Meinhof gang will begin a terror campaign if Louise Minihan isn't kept in prison?
      Post up your address and I will arrange for somebody to come and throw a tin of paint over you. Would you call the police? Of course you would you hypocrite.
    1. Sailor's Avatar
      Sailor -
      At least she'll be among friends.
    1. gijoe's Avatar
      gijoe -
      Quote Originally Posted by MacBeth View Post
      Minihan is behind bars but Harney is still at large...
      Now, now. Harney's weight is not the issue here......
    1. Tawdy's Avatar
      Tawdy -
      [QUOTE=JamieD;5579103]If elected politicians have things thrown at them, then that may be deemed an assault under the law, and if you end up in Mountjoy, you can tell yourself it was justified all you want but that's a consequence of YOUR actions. There's a reason we vote, remember? If you don't like the outcome or the policies, you don't react by throwing your toys out of your pram, OK? I don't like Mary Harney all that much either, but I'd rather see her confronted peacefully than having paint thrown at her by an attention hog.

      BTW, on your Period comment, grow up kid![/QUOTE]



      Two things here, you are the one who mentioned your period first, not me.

      I am over 60 years old, still have a lot to learn tho, just like you I would imagine.
    1. The Field Marshal's Avatar
      The Field Marshal -
      Quote Originally Posted by Tea Party Patriot View Post
      No, Keith M said that: "As bad as our politicians are, they should not have to face physical attack."
      Are Irelands politicians different from any other?

      I dont think so.


      Quote Originally Posted by Tea Party Patriot View Post
      Now Field Marshal, either you are suffering from an extreme form of dyslexia or you consider that politicians in Ireland are like Nazis.
      I see little difference.

      The current Irish govt is domineering, totalitarian and anti catholic.
      The EU is domineering, totalitarian and anti catholic

      So too were the Nazis.


      When any political system penalises its population in the way the EU and successive Irish govts continue to do so then it can only lead to violent acts against those perceived in authority to be responsible for such oppression.
    1. borntorum's Avatar
      borntorum -
      Quote Originally Posted by Sync View Post
      I think technically as you're consistently offending every time you refuse you could technically be held indefinitely. If she's insistent on refusing to pay though then sentencing her to the original 2 months inside would seem appropriate.
      No, I doubt she's been arrested for contempt of court. Whenever a fine is imposed, a period of imprisonment is ordered in default of payment, e.g. €300 fine, 7 days in default. Going to jail means that the fine no longer has to be paid.

      Of course most fine defaulters get processed and are in and out of Mountjoy in a few hours, therefore many people who have a fine imposed upon them not unreasonably decide not to pay it and put up the the relatively minor inconvenience of being arrested and processed instead
    1. b.a. baracus's Avatar
      b.a. baracus -
      Quote Originally Posted by The Field Marshal View Post
      Are Irelands politicians different from any other?

      I dont think so.




      I see little difference.

      The current Irish govt is domineering, totalitarian and anti catholic.
      The EU is domineering, totalitarian and anti catholic

      So too were the Nazis.


      When any political system penalises its population in the way the EU and successive Irish govts continue to do so then it can only lead to violent acts against those perceived in authority to be responsible for such oppression.
      Tinfoil hat firmly in place.
    1. LOCALHERO's Avatar
      LOCALHERO -
      A classic example of how not to do things. If she refuses to pay a court sanctioned fine, put an attachment against wherever she gets her money from and a large collection fee. Jail her for a week for contempt and charge her for the pleasure of her stay.
      While I detest Harney for what she stood for and the wreckage she visited upon us all, assault is assault and should have serious consequences.
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