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Lisbon 2 - how will you vote?

This is a discussion on Lisbon 2 - how will you vote? within the Lisbon Treaty forums, part of the Europe category on Politics.ie. Originally Posted by Lennon It would have to be NO as nothing in the treaty has changed. Our leaders are ...
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It would have to be NO as nothing in the treaty has changed. Our leaders are sleep walking the country into the abyss.
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. Voting yes to Lisbon is not an endorsement of either the government or the opposition.
Voting YES is an endorsment of those who refuse to take NO for an answer, This includes both our government and our opposition.
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It is debatable whether polls like the one on this website are of any use given that they can be manipulated. Witness the poll prior to the recent elections. On this website, Sinn Fein got the biggest vote in the poll - there are only 2 explanations. The poll accurately reflects the views of politics.ie contributors; or else some contributors voted numerous times to skew the results. The latter explanation is much more plausible
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It is debatable whether polls like the one on this website are of any use given that they can be manipulated. Witness the poll prior to the recent elections. On this website, Sinn Fein got the biggest vote in the poll - there are only 2 explanations. The poll accurately reflects the views of politics.ie contributors; or else some contributors voted numerous times to skew the results. The latter explanation is much more plausible
Ah but unlike the election poll, only registered members are allowed to vote this time I think.
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We did have a choice. That's why we did bury it. Now we have the choice to dig it up or leave it buried again

That's bullsh!t, and you know it.

If we said Yes would we have got the chance to reconsider? I don't fukkin think so.
Case closed. The EU's particular brand of 'democracy' is heavily weighted in one direction. That point is beyond dispute.
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Ah but unlike the election poll, only registered members are allowed to vote this time I think.
And I seem to recall the p.ie exit poll after the first referendum was spot on.
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And I seem to recall the p.ie exit poll after the first referendum was spot on.
Yes. Though I also remember the pre-referendum poll had the no side 4% higher than on the day. The exit-poll was around 51-49 against.
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That's bullsh!t, and you know it.

If we said Yes would we have got the chance to reconsider? I don't fukkin think so.
Case closed. The EU's particular brand of 'democracy' is heavily weighted in one direction. That point is beyond dispute.
And yet I dispute. If you voted No people into government in the next GE then that's an option that would be open to them.
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And I seem to recall the p.ie exit poll after the first referendum was spot on.
How have people ACTUALLY voted?

Actually, P.ie has a YES bias.
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How have people ACTUALLY voted?

Actually, P.ie has a YES bias.
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Private poll showing 57% Yes--- 43%No if this trend continues we could see a big endorcement of the Lisbon treaty.
The poll was taken in 4 middle class stations and 4 innercity stations
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