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The results of a new poll show that a huge majority are opposed to a second referendum on the Lisbon Treaty. Details of the poll, which was brought to my attention last night, are below. It is being forwarded to all the newspapers and all our TDs.

Tom Prendeville:

70% reject a second Lisbon referendum

57% would vote No in a Treaty rerun.

A new opinion poll shows that 70% of people do not want a rerun of the Lisbon Treaty. The poll also shows that if a new treaty was forced upon the electorate that it would end up being heavily defeated.

The poll was carried out by former staff members of the Catholic Hibernian magazine, who have now set up their own non-profit social affairs research organization Gael Poll.

Famously the last Hibernian opinion poll which was published in the Irish Sun (June 4th) accurately predicted that the Lisbon Treaty would be defeated by a margin of 54 % for the No side versus 46% for Yes campaigners.

On the day of the count -which took place nine days later- the actual result was 53.4% No and 46.6 % Yes.

The uncanny poll prediction which was out by only a half a percent was the most accurate poll in the country.

At the time more established and heavily funded opinion polls were all over the place, and indicating that the Lisbon Treaty would be passed.

Last week Gael Poll polled 501 respondents in Dublin, Cork and Limerick. The respondents were asked two straightforward questions:
Do you want another referendum on the Lisbon Treaty?

A clear 57% said No as opposed to 23% who said Yes with 20% of people undecided.

When pollsters discounted the don't knows: an overwhelming 70% of people indicated that they did not want a rerun of the Lisbon Treaty, as opposed to 30% who did.

When people were asked their voting intentions if the Government obtained declarations on: abortion, same sex marriages, neutrality, corporate tax and an EU Commissioner and decided to hold a rerun of the treaty on this basis.

The results were 44% No and 29% Yes with 27% undecided. If the undecided ended up on polling day voting in even numbers for both sides, pollsters concluded that the results could be a dramatic:
57 % for the No side versus 43% for the Yes camp.

The pollsters say that the in-depth survey provides a snapshot of the public mood and represents a good indicator of opinion on the street. If that is the case, the Government is skating on very thin ice.

With speculation mounting that the Government intends to announce a new Lisbon Treaty referendum in the coming week, the poll makes for grim reading and points to certain defeat. An outcome, which many believe could lead to the Government collapsing.
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Can you post a link to the poll data. It would back up your claim, otherwise people will dismiss it as bogus or biased.
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i was rang on Sunday night for a poll on the Lisbon Treaty and the state of the Economy - reckon theres a news Lisbon Poll due in the SBP soon!
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This is the second poll to show the yes side far from the psychologically-important 50% mark. While I would be a little cautious about a poll with only 500 in its sample, I nonetheless take a grain of optimism from this. It's clear that regardless of these worthless declarations (which won't be legally-binding), a huge chunk of voters - 39-44% depending on the poll - do not want the Lisbon Treaty. In particular, they do not want the Charter of Fundamental Rights and the surrender of our judicial-sovereignty. They do not want to lose scores of national vetoes allowing foreign govts that we do not elect to pass laws in Ireland. We do not want Turkish EU membership and we do not want the new voting system which allows 3 Big States and a fourth Big/Small state to block everything while preventing a group of 11 small states from blocking anything. The aim of the Charter is to enrich the legal-profession with free legal-aid to challenge Irish law, particularly in the area of asylum policy, as well as to turn the ECJ into a Supreme Court for ideological reasons. The answer is still no. Expect, however, the liberal Left to rubbish the poll on the grounds the former editor (David Quinn) of the Irish Catholic is a no to Lisbon voter. (I myself am a conservative on economic issues and a liberal on moral issues - just to clarify where I come from).
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Oh FFS if those hateful wannnkers have anything to do with it I won't be knocking on any doors. In fact I might even vote yes this time, just to not be contaminated by them.
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Can you post a link to the poll data. It would back up your claim, otherwise people will dismiss it as bogus or biased.
Just got the press release as detailed above.
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Oh FFS if those hateful wannnkers have anything to do with it I won't be knocking on any doors. .
Yeah I agree, a crowd of bigoted fascist homophobes.

And Tory-Boy above is the first out to defend them
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It's on page 8 of the daily star
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Last week Gael Poll polled 501 respondents in Dublin, Cork and Limerick.
So three urban areas were polled, and no rural areas. Were the responses weighted into a national quota sample?
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It's clear that regardless of these worthless declarations (which won't be legally-binding), a huge chunk of voters - 39-44% depending on the poll - do not want the Lisbon Treaty. In particular, they do not want the Charter of Fundamental Rights and the surrender of our judicial-sovereignty. They do not want to lose scores of national vetoes allowing foreign govts that we do not elect to pass laws in Ireland. We do not want Turkish EU membership and we do not want the new voting system which allows 3 Big States and a fourth Big/Small state to block everything while preventing a group of 11 small states from blocking anything. The aim of the Charter is to enrich the legal-profession with free legal-aid to challenge Irish law, particularly in the area of asylum policy, as well as to turn the ECJ into a Supreme Court for ideological reasons. The answer is still no. Expect, however, the liberal Left to rubbish the poll on the grounds the former editor (David Quinn) of the Irish Catholic is a no to Lisbon voter. (I myself am a conservative on economic issues and a liberal on moral issues - just to clarify where I come from).
Even leaving aside the pack of blatant lies about the EU in that post, all that is is why YOU don't want the Lisbon Treaty. There's no evidence that anything resembling a majority of No voters voted No for the same reasons as you did.
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