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FGers considering voting against EU treaty

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Default FGers considering voting against EU treaty

As some one who is in the "Don't Know" tending towards a probable "No" vote, I am interested in whether there are any other FG supporters considering a no vote and what reasons they might have.

For me the big issue is the failure to out the EU parliament to the centre of EU governance.

I believe at the least the head of the EU should be elected from the parliament. That would be enough of a start to convince me the EU was capable of evolving into a functioning democracy.

Any one else?

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Nope save some mad clause declaring genocide lawful or something Ill be voting Yes.
Im a committed European, a stronger EU is beneficial for its citizens and the world at large, and a more effectively functioning EU which this Treaty seeks to create is definitely a good thing.
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As some one who is in the "Don't Know" tending towards a probable "No" vote, I am interested in whether there are any other FG supporters considering a no vote and what reasons they might have.

For me the big issue is the failure to out the EU parliament to the centre of EU governance.

I believe at the least the head of the EU should be elected from the parliament. That would be enough of a start to convince me the EU was capable of evolving into a functioning democracy.

Any one else?
I'm voting no. Why? Because I disapprove of the growing centralisation of power in Brussels, and because of the French and Dutch no votes. There are other reasons too: the EU's interference in domestic affairs, it's PCness, and the prospect of Turkish accession.

This is the only chance people have to really tell the EU what they think of it.
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I'm considering voting no.
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Nope save some mad clause declaring genocide lawful or something Ill be voting Yes.
Im a committed European, a stronger EU is beneficial for its citizens and the world at large, and a more effectively functioning EU which this Treaty seeks to create is definitely a good thing.
Ditto.
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Right now I don't know what way I'll vote. My plan is to read as much as I can about it and make an informed decision on whether or not it is in the best interest of Ireland and the EU. Right now from what I know, I'd guess I'll vote for it, but I don’t know for sure.
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Nope save some mad clause declaring genocide lawful or something Ill be voting Yes.
Im a committed European, a stronger EU is beneficial for its citizens and the world at large, and a more effectively functioning EU which this Treaty seeks to create is definitely a good thing.
How?
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I will be voting yes. If I had my chance to write the treaty it would be much different to the one being signed. But this is the compromise that was agreed, and I think it is much better that it is passed and the EU progresses than it is rejected and the European project stalls (again)
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I will be voting yes. If I had my chance to write the treaty it would be much different to the one being signed. But this is the compromise that was agreed, and I think it is much better that it is passed and the EU progresses than it is rejected and the European project stalls (again)
"Progresses", you say. To what??
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A resounding NO - because we're possibly the only ones who will be given the choice, I feel we should do it for all the other "peasants" who the Europhiles don't want to consult for fear of more rejection - the treaty itself and it's contents are secondary for me, the giant democracy defecit that we are expected to put up with galls me to no end.
 
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