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Instead, we have a diamond-shaped society. The vast bulk of people are happily middle-class with an isolated underclass and a privileged oligarchy existing untouched at the edges.
That's such a worthless analysis of Irish society that it's not worth even engaging with. Basically it comes from the yfg school of, all working class people are skangers in tracksuits ready to rob your car.

It's so simplistic as to be useless.
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Can't imagine her pals having kids with Irish names.She finds all that a bit twee and maybe even racist.No I think Rupert,India,perhaps even Tarquin.

What's this got to do with anything?

Is it because she is a woman?

Why speculate about her kids names and not Fintan's kids names ( if either of them are parents).
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What's this got to do with anything?

Is it because she is a woman?

Why speculate about her kids names and not Fintan's kids names ( if either of them are parents).
No, it's more likely because she wrote a piece before claiming that people she knows send their kids to a Gaelscoil to get away from the 'nasty foreigners.'

Basically she displayed how she knows nothing outside of her own upper middle class bubble, pretty much like today's piece really.
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No, it's more likely because she wrote a piece before claiming that people she knows send their kids to a Gaelscoil to get away from the 'nasty foreigners.'

Basically she displayed how she knows nothing outside of her own upper middle class bubble, pretty much like today's piece really.
How does that display a bubble? Do you think the higher proportion of non-national children in community schools for instance, is by pure fluke? Or are you content with ghettoisation?
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How does that display a bubble? Do you think the higher proportion of non-national children in community schools for instance, is by pure fluke? Or are you content with ghettoisation?
No, I believe they should all be given money to go home, or failing that, they should be put in separate rooms to the pure bred Irish.*









* of course I'm being sarcastic
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That's such a worthless analysis of Irish society that it's not worth even engaging with. Basically it comes from the yfg school of, all working class people are skangers in tracksuits ready to rob your car.

It's so simplistic as to be useless.
Load of balls. Plently of working class people in FG. More significant, plently of workin class people don't vote labour. Labour gets middle class votes as far as I can make out.

It was a go at Fintan O'Toole and she hit the mark.
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Carey's piece was as facile as it was deluded - full of cliche and silly analogising. It's also a woefully stupid assessment of the current situation. It's an appeal to the hard-core wooden-brained Fianna Fail voters who still don't get what has just happened: that their heroes all turned out to be liars and thieves; that the best of them turned out to be the most incompetent people in Ireland. Carey doesn't even begin to understand what has brought the economic disaster upon us. But then being as silly and smug as she is, that's understandable.
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WorldbyStorm on great form: also a link to Conor on Dublin Opionion.

Carey is not giving an analysis, she's propogandising.

She wouldn't know analysis if it hit her square between the eyes.
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The dreamers are miserable and frustrated. They disdain Fianna Fáil, but loathe Fine Gael even more. They speak in the loftiest of tones about the national interest and cannot understand that people vote in their own self-interest. They stand up for what is right but then go all self-righteous. In a nation reared on self-deprecation, it’s just not the right tone. Left-wing people don’t just believe they have better policies, they think they are better people and that bugs the rest of us.
She's correct on that. We need more ideological-balance in our State broadcaster. It is too dominated by the Left.
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She's correct on that. We need more ideological-balance in our State broadcaster. It is too dominated by the Left.
You must be living on another planet FT. RTE is the most craven government whore of a media outlet of any western country. The problem for people like yourself is that you think ANY mention of another point of view is some sort of outrageous aberration while the 98% of what you hear that is mind-numbingly conformist passes you by as what only appears to be normal - to you. The upshot is that when someone like yourself hears, say, three relatively favourable mentions of a Labour party statement or whatever, you are outraged. You don't seem to notice the massively government biased coverage in which those statements are contextualised.
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