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Irish Mirror Exclusive - Izevbekhai FGM story a lie

This is a discussion on Irish Mirror Exclusive - Izevbekhai FGM story a lie within the Justice forums, part of the Topical Discussion category on Politics.ie. But what is humnanitarian, she would nto be going to Nigeria Hopi, you have FGM and nigeria in your head, ...

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But what is humnanitarian, she would nto be going to Nigeria Hopi, you have FGM and nigeria in your head, when neithert is relevant in this specific case.
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No I am not wrong, I have quite a bi of legal knowledge and experience although I am not a legal professional...
Wrong, and let's be clear here, A decsion to reverse a court deliberation by a Minister on humanitarian grounds has no implecation of itself on the said law, Repeat none whatever, In fact the Minister is not even required to give any explanation as to why any such decision was taken.
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I just hope someone is watching her this time before she does another runner and abandons the children like she did the last time.
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I don't think they will be in Ireland much longer. Monday next I would say.
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Why didn't she go to another African country, a Christian one, where the practice of FGM would not have spread to. The money the family wasted on flights would have set them up nicely. The family have the resources, they went on holiday to the UK for feck sake, These are not poor people, they are the Nigerian elite. If we cannot get costs off her, she should be jailed and her children sent back to the father. There is no threat to the children, never was, never will be.
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No it appears her legal case has fallen apart and she is being abandoned by her legal team Not much to help her now.
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On humanitarian grounds, I call for her to be deported so as to help avoid cuts in the health-service owing to us having to borrow to pay for bogus asylum-seekers like her. A Dept of Finance official on Oireachtas report last week claimed asylum is costing the taxpayer over €300 million per annum. The Mirror stated that her case has cost the country €1 million thus far.
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talk about going round in circles. there are some posters on here usually on the foreign affairs (islam,israel, refugees)topics or hobby horses who would argue their point(usually the same 2 or 3 tired points) until armageddon. I'm surprised at the tolerance shown by most people for them. I've been dragged into the odd game of tennis myself but have come to the conclusion that it is impossible to have a meaningful discussion with a fundamentalist or an extremist. all that you get is a repetitive strain injury and hair loss.
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Thyat is not the issue and never was. Ireland could not solve all the problems of the world and nobody is suggesting that we should even tr. A humanitarian reversal in this case does not expose us to any such scenario, pur existing immigration laws remain intact. The govenrment, should however, in conjuction with the EU and other countries, seek alternative means of dealing with such cases.
That is the issue.

You have said that nigeria is 'only fit for dogs' and you would not send any girl back from here.

How can you say this family can stay & the next can't ?
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Wrong, and one more time, a decsion of a Minsietr to reverse a court deliberation on humnanitarian grounds has no implivations whatever for the said law and all future cases will proceed with no reference to any such decision.
Just to clarify this. The Court do not decide to deport somebody, that power is vested in the Minister. Nor do the Courts decide not deport a person, that power is also vested in the Minister.
A person may seek to have the decision of the Minister Judicially Reviewed. If this happens it is the manner in which the decison has been arrived at, not the decision itself that is looked at by the Court.
In this case, the applicant has sought to have ainisterial decision reviewed by the courts. This has been done. She lost her case in both the High and Supreme Court, and has now sought to create further delay by taking Judicial Review cases against her Subsidary Protection application. The Supreme Court hearing in this regard is on Friday, and she will most likely lose, given recent developments. She has no legal basis to be in this country and should be deported.
Further, she has weakened the case of any future asylum seeker claiming FGM as a reason for flleing their home country. Asylum seekers who create bogus stories make it moredifficult for those genuinely fleeing persecution to gain acceptance.
Even if her claims are true, they fall outside the scope for refugee status. The persecution must be at the hands of a state actor, she does not even claim this to be the case.
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