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Gardai to march on wednesday

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Old 23rd February 2009
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Default Gardai to march on wednesday

Gardai who are members of the Garda Representative Association are to march on the Dail on Wednesday next 25th February.

They will convene at Parnell Square at 1.30pm and march to the Dail.

Members of the Garda Representative Association executive already held a protest at the Dail on Wednesday 18th February when a letter was handed to An Taoiseach.

Coupled with the actions of the Army is this an indication of the civil unrest that is rocking out corrupt country where the sufferers are the rank and file Civil Servants the PAYE workers the elderly and the sick while those within the circle are protected by inaction on the part of the Government.

I think it is fair comment to conclude that when a Nations Army and Police feel the necessity to protest against the Government of the country and actually go out and do it that the sitting government have failed to hold the confidence of its citizens and have failed its Nation.

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I respect the Gardai and their role in society.
These lads are on about €64k a year on average.
€10k of this overtime.

The levy probably does effect them more than most but that is because they are better paid than most in the public service.

If it is not a levy it will have to be a pay cut and it does not matter who is in govt it will have to happen.
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so , eh, who's gonna "gard" the gards!
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I respect the Gardai and their role in society.
These lads are on about €64k a year on average.
€10k of this overtime.

The levy probably does effect them more than most but that is because they are better paid than most in the public service.

If it is not a levy it will have to be a pay cut and it does not matter who is in govt it will have to happen.
Apparently the 10k overtime is only for those within the circle. GRA President Michael O'Boyce summed their argument up in a press release as follows:

Benchmarking took our pension contributions into account and denied us remuneration for the dangerous aspects of our work and our flexibility and improved productivity. The work of a frontline Garda cannot be compared to any other occupation in the private sector. Every call to the gardaí can potentially lead to one of our members putting their life on the line. We are exposed to serious personal risk as an occupational hazard. On average, two members are assaulted every day in the course of doing their duty.

Once again, those workers at the bottom are asked to make the sacrifices while those at the top are not asked to bear an equitable share.


What does this say about the government Army marching, Gardai marching chairman of GRA accusing the government of being unfair and in breach of the Equality regulations?.
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What does this say about the government Army marching, Gardai marching chairman of GRA accusing the government of being unfair and in breach of the Equality regulations?.
I presume that's a rhetorical question.

In case it isn't what it says is that the government is ****ed
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I presume that's a rhetorical question.

In case it isn't what it says is that the government is ****ed
I think you have hit the nail on the head.

The Gardai have never protested without good cause.

Many will have been told of the Macushla protest in 1961.
They took the word of the then Minister for Justice Charles J. Haughey that they would not be disciplined and then 11 were sacked.

What is different now.
Why are they marching now read underneath from Oct 2007 and you will see what the Government of this country were doing when they knew the country was on a downward spiral.

this is what RTE announced in Oct 2007

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The Taoiseach is set to receive a pay rise of €38,000 a year, which will bring his annual salary to €310,000.

The pay increase is under the terms of a pay review for senior public servants.

The Review Body on Higher Remuneration in the Public Sector compares pay in the private sector with incomes of around 1600 senior staff including politicians, the judiciary, top gardaí and heads of Government departments and state agencies.

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The average award for these staff will be 7.3% and the total cost of the increases will be around €16m a year.

In general, the most senior staff have received the highest increases to take account of their heavier responsibilities.

The increases could have been even higher, but the review body discounted salaries by 15% to allow for the value of guaranteed state pensions.

However, a significant number of staff have been awarded no increase at all.

Politicians are among the big winners in this top pay review.

The Taoiseach gets a 14% pay rise, while the Tanaiste's pay packet increases by 15.5% to €270,000.

Ministers salaries are up 12% to €240,000 and Junior ministers also rise by 12% to €165,000.

These earnings include their TD salaries

Judges got the highest average increase at 18 because the review factored in high barrister salaries, which may influence suitable people in joining the judiciary.

A number of people are earning more than the new going rate for the job.

HSE Chief Executive Brendan Drumm is earning around €360,000 plus bonuses of up to 25%.

The Review Body says the going rate for his job should be €303,000.

However, it is understood that the Prof Drumm has additional duties in setting up the new body from scratch.

Also earning more than the recommended rate is the Commissioner for Aviation Regulation who is currently on €203,379.

The recommended salary in future will be €185,000.

Other recipients of large pay increases: the Dublin City Manager will receive an increase of 36.2%, the head of the IDA will get a 22% rise, the head of Teagasc's pay packet will jump by 29%, the DPPs annual wage is to go up by 27%, and both the Garda Ombudsmen and Garda Commissioner's annual salaries will rise by 15%.

However a number of grades received no pay award at all - including 150 Local Authority Directors of Services, and 32 HSE Local Health Office Managers.
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its hardly civil unrest
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its hardly civil unrest
Not now, but it's a precedent-setting move. A dangerous precedent-setting move.

In the hour of need, when we need our police/armed services most, what good are they if they're off at some demo?
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