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This is a discussion on Linking Social Welfare Payments to Cost of Living by Area within the Health and Social Affairs forums, part of the Topical Discussion category on Politics.ie. Rather than broad sweeping cuts in social welfare payments, what would people think of the feasibility and legitimatcy or otherwise ...
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| Rather than broad sweeping cuts in social welfare payments, what would people think of the feasibility and legitimatcy or otherwise of linking payments at a very broad level to cost of living. I believe the equivalent of jobseekers payments in the UK are the same no matter where you live (Im open to correction on this). When I was living in the UK, it seemed utterly unfair that someone living in London might get the same payments as someone living in Armagh or Stirling. Similarly someone living in Dublin gets the same as someone living in Carrick-on-Shannon. This could be done at a very broad level, such that Dublin payments (single Adults for example) would be kept the same at ~€204. People in Leinster and cities could be paid ~€200. People living in the midlands paid ~€195. And all others paid ~€190. Such a gradient would be applicable to all payments. Of course there would be issues about people being on the border and such, but no system is completely fair, and would go some way in being fairer than it is now, and of course in reducing the welfare bill. Also, it would reduce the political fallout of a broad sweeping cut in welfare payments and thus could be more palatable.
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| Forget it. The admin and testing would eat 110% of the proposed savings.
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| Why would admin and testing be so expensive? The only test would be whether someone lives within a certain boundary (electoral boundaries could suffice). Therefore a simple addition to the current software would select people by address for the relevant rate of payment. There wouldn't need to be any in-depth cost of living survey done either, as it would simply be divided into as few as 3 or 4 areas as outlined above, and cost of living (for example determining the specific rate for Dublin as opposed to Leinster) could easily be taken from research that is out there already (Consumer Price Index for example).
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| That's a fair point.
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Then apply the rate according to address (addresses are already on the Department's databases). At most, an additional parameter would have to be inputed into the existing software.
__________________ Ireland interests are best secured within a more dynamic EU. Vote YES to Lisbon. Last edited by geraghd; 1st July 2009 at 08:17 PM. |
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