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GET FLU JAB - OR BE JAILED: Irish Newspaper Report

This is a discussion on GET FLU JAB - OR BE JAILED: Irish Newspaper Report within the Health and Social Affairs forums, part of the Topical Discussion category on Politics.ie. Originally Posted by Geekzilla Note that the article contains so many words like "may" and "could" and "on the verge ...

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Note that the article contains so many words like "may" and "could" and "on the verge of " instead of "will" and "shall" that it gives the author of the original article plenty of room to back out of any claims made.

Scaremongering, pure and simple.
Have you proof, cause there is proof of something underhanded going on, here are a few links to help you make up your mind so you wont be making a decision based on a lack of knowledge.

"Second school hit by swine flu outbreak"

The links are all here, have a look.
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Surely that would be unconstitutional; Ryan v. AG; Kenny J and the Right to Bodily Integrity under Art.30.3 and all that. At least worth a stab (excuse pun), I know i'd challenge it all the way!
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If the statists try to force the hamthrax into my body,they will need serious refreshments after they are finished with me.
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Have you proof, cause there is proof of something underhanded going on, here are a few links to help you make up your mind so you wont be making a decision based on a lack of knowledge.

"Second school hit by swine flu outbreak"

The links are all here, have a look.
The burden of proof is on the person making the claim, not the person questioning it.
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The article is probably just sensationalist tabloid muck BUT it highlights that the tools are in place and it takes only the political will to do it. Luckily Irish politicians are the most incompetent in the world, so we should be alright. Mind yiu, a cornered rat and all that...
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Article 40 of the Irish Constitution (Bunreacht na hÉireann) sets down that you have a right not to have your body or person interfered with. This means that the State may not do anything to harm your life or health.

If you are in custody, you have a right not to have your health endangered while in prison.

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National Pandemic Influenza Plan also lists the following:

“A number of legal issues may arise from the public health management of pandemic influenza.”

“The World Health Organization has identified and categorised non-pharmaceutical public health interventions as follows:”

» “Measures to increase social distance”
» “Measures for people entering or exiting an infected area within a country”
» “Section 31 [Health Act] gives power to the Minister to make regulations to prevent the spread of an infectious disease and to treat people suffering from infectious disease. The regulations envisaged by the Act include:”
» “Requirement for adults and children to stay in their homes”
» “Requirement for adults and children to submit to examination, vaccination, immunisation”

Health Act section 32 A and B below deals with the entire population not just the infected and uninfected population incarcerated in hospitals and “other places”. It gives the Minister power to order the injection of the entire population (quote: “all adult persons” and “all children”) with a vaccine they believe might immunise against a pandemic “caused by a new influenza strain“. You are probably thinking how could they create a vaccine so fast, doesn’t it take years to prove it is safe? They are prepared to alter the entire population’s immune system and DNA with what would be officially an untested experimental vaccine, are you prepared for that? It’s the law now.

Health Act section 32:
“The Minister may by order declare that-”

“it is necessary, for the purpose of preventing the spread of a particular infectious disease, that all adult persons should submit themselves to a specified measure in relation to their protection or immunisation against such infectious disease”

“The Minister may by order declare that—”

“it is necessary, for the purpose of preventing the spread of a particular infectious disease, that all children should be submitted to a specified measure in relation to their protection or immunisation against that infectious disease”.

Hope that clears it up! heehe
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The burden of proof is on the person making the claim, not the person questioning it.
Fair enough, the proof is on the link that i left you in the last post did ya get to look at it yet, before its too late,, heeelllppp
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I will stay at home and eat paracetemol.

I have paid thousands into health insurance over the years and never claimed. Screw you clan. In fairness.... That is a pathetic opinion.
Echinacea, vit C, colloidal silver and good quality veg from your garden will keep you much healthier.
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Jail for me then, cant wait to be honest, costs far to much to live in the real world.
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Given the comparatively mild effects of the current swine flu (H1N1) virus I cannot see how any medical person could justify compulsory vaccination. I just do not see this happening.
Of course if the virus mutates or reassorts with other variants and the situation changes then there could be a medical case made.
if the current viral strain mutates, there is no guarentee that the current vaccine will be able to combat this new strain!
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