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Are the Greens proping up the government for their Oireachtas pensions?

This is a discussion on Are the Greens proping up the government for their Oireachtas pensions? within the Green Party forums, part of the Political Parties category on Politics.ie. Originally Posted by Lloyd-Apjohn But the Greens aren't getting ANY of their policies implemented. Are you a bit slow, or ...

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But the Greens aren't getting ANY of their policies implemented.
Are you a bit slow, or just living in some partisan la-la-land?
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The Greens have implemented huge swathes of Green policy in the last two years, and after the review they will implement even more.

What grotesque exageration ! A few mickey mouse items on insulation and bits and pieces of this and that.
Yawn!

You keep trotting out those Labour talking points if it makes you feel better. I can't believe you are still bitter over losing the Mercs two years later.
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What utter, utter nonsense !
The Greens went cap in hand to FF and delighted in taking Ahern's policies on board.
the Greens were part of the problem, not part of the solution.
Are you aware that every time you turn up on a thread about the Greens that the thread effectively dies?

Oh, its that guy who keeps starting threads about Dan Boyle. Think I'll look for another thread.
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Yawn!

You keep trotting out those Labour talking points if it makes you feel better. I can't believe you are still bitter over losing the Mercs two years later.
As I am tired of pointing out, I voted green at the last general election !
The Greens along with Captian Bertie of Planet Bertie drove this countries economy on to the rocks.
The Greens vodoo economics will only prolong our recession.
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All the Greens will be kicked out at the next election exactly the same as the PDs for propping up a dangerous government, well, been generous we can thank Bertie for something.
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As I am tired of pointing out, I voted green at the last general election !
The Greens along with Captian Bertie of Planet Bertie drove this countries economy on to the rocks.
The Greens vodoo economics will only prolong our recession.
The Country was ALREADY on the Rocks, due to the way that FF, FG and Labour Councillors up and down the Country granted idiotic rezonings, willy nilly, in every parish in the Country.


The Greens sustainable economics, and their focus on getting us off of imported energy sources, are the only thing that will get us OUT of recession.
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All the Greens will be kicked out at the next election exactly the same as the PDs for propping up a dangerous government, well, been generous we can thank Bertie for something.
Probably. That was the experience in Australia and Germany.

Therefore we should stay in Government to the very end, and get as many changes implemented as possible. It could be five years before we get back in Government again, so we need to make the most of the opportunity we are presented with.
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The Country was ALREADY on the Rocks, due to the way that FF, FG and Labour Councillors up and down the Country granted idiotic rezonings, willy nilly, in every parish in the Country.


The Greens sustainable economics, and their focus on getting us off of imported energy sources, are the only thing that will get us OUT of recession.
It wasn't actually on the rocks in June 2007 - it was heading there but there was still a chance to avoid a crash. The Greens did nothing. Nothing at all.

It will be a happy day when you are consigned to the dustbin of history with the PDs.

The Greens can't even do the most importantly symbolic acts of all such as scrapping all oireachtas pensions and expenses and allowances and make TDs accountable. IF they even did one thing - to reform the Dáil and make oireachtas members' actions relevant and accountable and transparent - then they might have done the state some service.

As it is, they haven't even done that and the one thing Gormless seems to be proud of he had to backtrack on - the lightbulbs.

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They are the only Party that predicted the Bubble, the only Party that railed against the idiotic "Build, Build, Build" (aka Borrow, Borrow, Borrow) economic policies of the three establishment Parties,
Oh yea the Greens did a lot of railing, Tara, Shannon, incinerators... But when they got behind the railings at government buildings their railing turned to wailing - Whaaa Dick Roche did it. Sob sob there's no rendition. Boo hoo we can't change the contracts.

You'd find more backbone in a jellyfish than a Green TD.
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It wasn't actually on the rocks in June 2007 - it was heading there but there was still a chance to avoid a crash. The Greens did nothing. Nothing at all.

It will be a happy day when you are consigned to the dustbin of history with the PDs.

The Greens can't even do the most importantly symbolic acts of all such as crapping all oireachtas pensions and expenses and allowances and make TDs accountable. IF they even did one thing - to reform the Dáil and make oireachtas members relevant and accountable and transparent - then they might have done the state some service.

As it is, they haven't even done that and the one thing Gormless seems to be proud of he had to backtrack on - the lightbulbs.
Thank you for that input which many will heartily agree with.
The reality is that corruption in Ireland has been sanitised and legitimised.
No too many cash in envelopes now as all the excesses and taking out hidden profit is now legal and even Beverly Cooper Flynn has been welcomed back into to the Dail Committee system thanks to Gormley and Ahern.
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