Are you so blinded by bitterness that you are unable to read a posting correctly? Did I say we would produce better politicians?? No, I didn't. I said that people might just know something about the people, parties and policies they are voting for if they received some sort of compulsary education in politics.

Reading between the lines of your posts, I get the feeling you have other 'issues' going on that would make reasonable dialogue quite impossible for you.

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Thanks for that Mar ... it's exactly the way I feel.

I hate to disagree FT but you could not be more wrong about this. Trevor Sargent led the Greens into coalition with FF alright. He was just very sly and conniving about it (and some here seem to have swallowed the deception hook, line and sinker).

An excellent article on the Green/FF coalition and Trevors role here.

Trevor, having pledged not to lead his party into coalition with Fianna Fail, was the main person involved in finalising the deal with the Taoiseach. And then good old Trevor devoted his life to relentlessly applying his leadership skills to convincing party members to accept the deal offered by FF. I'd call that "leadership". What would you call it?

When the deal with new best friends FF was done (note: when the deal was DONE and not one second before), and now aware that his credibility was at risk, Trevor stepped down as GP leader. Despite this noble of noblest gestures however, his conscience was clean enough to allow him to accept a junior ministry in the very same FF dominated govt that he so despised only a few days before.

And good old Trevor has been perfectly happy to support everything this disgrace of a government have done since 2007. Including the recent cuts which include taking money from the blind, the unemployed, and adults attempting to return to education.

I bet he's very proud of himself alright, and the way he didnt lead his party into govt with FF ...