Yes I agree but to be honest I believe Dev did that purposely to piss off the British.

Originally Posted by Fagans

I have massive Republica roots. I was born in Belfast. I lost my great Uncle Bobby Sands in the Hunger Strikes. I know what the British have done to this country and would love a united Ireland. Howver, I belive the policies of Sinn fein in the shouth have been to idealistic and urealistic which is why i didnt join them. If they became more moderate and had more realistic proposals I may have joined them.

By more 'moderate' you mean a Green tinged version of Labour? No thanks.

Originally Posted by Fagans

Ireland maintained a policy of neutrality which I stand by. We would have had to fight under a british flag. We have seen through our history how thats worked out for Irishmen.

Largely beneficial with good pay.

I heard once the average British Imperial Army was up to 40% Irish in some areas.

I don't see how we would've in anyway fought under this supposed British flag?

Sure what, 40,000+ Irishmen fought for Britain anyways?

Would you consider them Traitors?

No thats not what I mean. I just mean that their economic policy in the last general election was so obviously flawed it ruined the partys credibilty for me.

Originally Posted by Fagans

I do truly believe your deluded. I canvassed with David McGuinness in his local election. There was only a team of four of us. Himself, Myself his girlfriend and former councillor Margeret Richardson. I didnt see any of the Ógra members. I also didnt see them when the late Brian Lenhian was still around. The moment David was the only candidate left everyone wanted to come to his aid. Thats what politcs shouldnt be about. That is what yiu are patting yourself on the back for.

Yer waffling up the wrong tree kiddo. Between Uncle Toms and chancers playing the FF card you will have to get up a bit earlier in the morning to pull the wool over my eyes

Originally Posted by Fagans

I have massive Republica roots. I was born in Belfast. I lost my great Uncle Bobby Sands in the Hunger Strikes. I know what the British have done to this country and would love a united Ireland. Howver, I belive the policies of Sinn fein in the shouth have been to idealistic and urealistic which is why i didnt join them. If they became more moderate and had more realistic proposals I may have joined them.

I'm the same age as you a chara. Used to have the exact same beliefs as you last year. I live in a small town but next year I'm going to join Ógra Shinn Féin when I'm in ollscoil. I was going to private message you just there but you have your private messages turned off. You seem like a decent, intelligent guy so if you turn them on I'd like to have a chat with you about this kind of stuff.

Originally Posted by Fagans

I have massive Republica roots. I was born in Belfast. I lost my great Uncle Bobby Sands in the Hunger Strikes. I know what the British have done to this country and would love a united Ireland. Howver, I belive the policies of Sinn fein in the shouth have been to idealistic and urealistic which is why i didnt join them. If they became more moderate and had more realistic proposals I may have joined them.

I suppose i live in the west, where it has always been a bastion of Fine Gael support. However i don't hold grudges against the British and believe it's time to move on.

Originally Posted by APettigrew92

Largely beneficial with good pay.

I heard once the average British Imperial Army was up to 40% Irish in some areas.

I don't see how we would've in anyway fought under this supposed British flag?

Sure what, 40,000+ Irishmen fought for Britain anyways?

Would you consider them Traitors?

Nope I wouldnt. I just wouldnt agree with Ireland fighting under a british flag and repaying money to the british government for years to come for the use of their ammuinition and bullets. We would have been held to economic randsom. The very reason Dev refused to repay the Land annunities.

Originally Posted by oggy

Yer waffling up the wrong tree kiddo. Between Uncle Toms and chancers playing the FF card you will have to get up a bit earlier in the morning to pull the wool over my eyes

Im not waffling. Merely stating the truth why dont you consult with David McGuinness as to who helped him during his local eection campaign a few years back.

Originally Posted by Fagans

Im not waffling. Merely stating the truth why dont you consult with David McGuinness as to who helped him during his local eection campaign a few years back.

Dont take any notice he's deluded