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    Quote Originally Posted by davehiggz View Post
    What loonies. Far right loonyism met by equally daft far left loonyism.

    Free speech people, the left can't be selective on who gets to speak!
    I know sure isn't it terrible, if there was no free speech for fascists, would FG even exist today?
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    Trinity College Dublin has been forced into a U-turn on controversial plans to have British National Party (BNP) leader Nick Griffin join a debate on immigration.

    The university said it could not guarantee the safety and wellbeing of staff and students and has warned the party leader he will not be allowed on campus next week.

    BNP party members have also been banned from the city centre grounds for the event.

    A spokeswoman for Trinity said the invite had been withdrawn after staff and students objected.
    Read more: Trinity calls off appearance for BNP leader | BreakingNews.ie

    Really really stupid.

    Hard to quantify the sheer idiocy of so-called 'anti-fascists' who object to freedom of speech.

    The way to defeat people you disagree with is to get them to speak openly & challenge their opinions.

    By this move, the AF brigade have stated that they believe the trinity students to be such sheep that mere exposure to griffin will turn them into bnp supporters.

    fkn morons.

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    Im glad to see that this farce was knocked on the head!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob3344 View Post

    AF brigade .
    Ahem, it A-F-A actually

    Quote Originally Posted by bob3344 View Post
    The way to defeat people you disagree with is to get them to speak openly & challenge their opinions.
    Not really tbh.

    I find it hard to understand the logic of trying to have a rational debate with someone who has no intentions of making a rational argument.

    Groups like the BNP don't use platforms like this to try and win the debate or win the audience over. They play on the fears and prejudice of a minority of their audience to win over those who might be interested.

    Look at the example of his appearence on Question Time;

    The Labour and Tory Panelists were crawling over each other trying to act more anti immigration than the BNP, while the one woman who did try to have a 'rational debate' wound up spending ages arguing over ice age migrations.


    BNP membership spiked by the hundreds within a few days.

    That's a few hundred more skins willing to attack immigrants, homosexuals etc.

    This fella's got a better way to fight fascism;

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morbeg View Post
    Ahem, it A-F-A actually
    I spell it d-i-c-k-h-e-a-d-s myself



    Quote Originally Posted by Morbeg View Post
    Not really tbh.

    I find it hard to understand the logic of trying to have a rational debate with someone who has no intentions of making a rational argument.

    Groups like the BNP don't use platforms like this to try and win the debate or win the audience over. They play on the fears and prejudice of a minority of their audience to win over those who might be interested.

    Look at the example of his appearence on Question Time;

    The Labour and Tory Panelists were crawling over each other trying to act more anti immigration than the BNP, while the one woman who did try to have a 'rational debate' wound up spending ages arguing over ice age migrations.


    BNP membership spiked by the hundreds within a few days.

    That's a few hundred more skins willing to attack immigrants, homosexuals etc.

    This fella's got a better way to fight fascism;
    Griffin is a very poor speaker, the way to expose him is to let him speak.

    The only reason for the BNPs existence is the persistent failure of the british government to acknowledge people's fears about mass immigration, anyone who merely suggested that flooding the UK with hundreds of thousands of 3rd world immigrants wasn't a good idea was denounced as a racist, fascist, nazi, xenophobe etc etc etc. The left ignore this & talk about the 'ignorance' of the average punter - bunch of fkwits, same attitude now in trinity, they obviously think that if griffin aka the Bogeyman is allowed to speak, that everyone who listens will become a jackboot wearing fascist overnight.

    That 'one woman' you are talking about was Bonnie Greer, a playwright from chicago, what the hell she was doing on the show other than being the token black person is beyond me. And everything she said was complete bo11ox btw. 'No such thing as indiginous english people' etc etc. If griffin had half a brain he would have scored some easy points. He doesn't.

    And as for this lefty bo11ox about showing concern for homosexuals, womens rights etc, had more credibility before the left crawled into bed with Islam.

    Why should a bunch of lefty morons decide what people are allowed listen to anyway ?

    Anyone with the barest knowledge of C21st history knows that the scum on the left caused far more deaths than fascism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morbeg View Post
    Ahem, it A-F-A actually



    Not really tbh.

    I find it hard to understand the logic of trying to have a rational debate with someone who has no intentions of making a rational argument.

    Groups like the BNP don't use platforms like this to try and win the debate or win the audience over. They play on the fears and prejudice of a minority of their audience to win over those who might be interested.

    Look at the example of his appearence on Question Time;

    The Labour and Tory Panelists were crawling over each other trying to act more anti immigration than the BNP, while the one woman who did try to have a 'rational debate' wound up spending ages arguing over ice age migrations.


    BNP membership spiked by the hundreds within a few days.

    That's a few hundred more skins willing to attack immigrants, homosexuals etc.

    This fella's got a better way to fight fascism;
    I agree with Bob, better to let him make the arguments and then show how irrational they are. IF "They play on the fears and prejudice of a minority of their audience to win over those who might be interested" then they certainly won that one by being banned.
    Libertarian - conservative

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