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    Labour Youth calls for the nationalisation of the Corrib Gas

    Labour Youth has issued a call for the nationlisation of the Corrib Gas.

    Their press statement can be foud here:
    http://www.labour.ie/youth/news/inde...223144127.html

    What do people think?

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    I think Labour Youth are completely irrelevant and about a million miles from Labour's position on almost everything.
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    Good Idea, but if it was nationalised today Im sure the main party would be ready to privatise it in 5 years with their drift to the right.
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    Not surprising anyway. It shows us that for the usual leftist crowd that this was never about the possibly of a pipeline exploding and people dieing, but just another anti-Capitalism rant. The people of rossport were just being used.

    The thing is if Labour get into government there isn’t a chance of them nationalising the Corrib Gas.
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    In the Labour Youth Newsletter i read today in TCD, whether its just the TCD branch or what, but has an article about "should Sinn Fein and Labour finally coalesce"

    Hmmm.......something the party itself would love.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacCoise
    I think Labour Youth are completely irrelevant and about a million miles from Labour's position on almost everything.
    That's true. Ye guys do realise ye should probably be in the Socialist party don't ye? (Or in some cases OSF or Éirigí)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky
    Not surprising anyway. It shows us that for the usual leftist crowd that this was never about the possibly of a pipeline exploding and people dieing, but just another anti-Capitalist rant. The people of rossport were just being used.

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    That's not true. Just because the Rossport situation isa perfect demonstration of the flaws of capitalism doesn't mean the campaign wasn't justified on its own merits!
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    Re: Labour Youth calls for the nationalisation of the Corrib

    Quote Originally Posted by jackwhite
    Labour Youth has issued a call for the nationlisation of the Corrib Gas.

    Their press statement can be foud here:
    http://www.labour.ie/youth/news/inde...223144127.html

    What do people think?
    How do you nationalise something that buried under a couple of hundred feet of rock 50 miles off the Atlantic coast?
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    Re: Labour Youth calls for the nationalisation of the Corrib

    Quote Originally Posted by jackwhite
    Labour Youth has issued a call for the nationlisation of the Corrib Gas.

    Their press statement can be foud here:
    http://www.labour.ie/youth/news/inde...223144127.html

    What do people think?
    I think nationalisation of the gasfield is a key demand of the campaign. The gasfield offers a huge potential for the state to invest into healthcare, education and the transport system to the benefit of working class people but on what basis should nationalisation be carried through? We've had a number of state-owned companies in Ireland, all crippled by bureaucracy and wasteful management, entirely because they're generally unaccountable to the communities and workers in them. Genuine nationalisation for the benefit of working class communities must be linked to a demand for nationalisation under democratic workers' control where the communities and workers can make these companies accountable and beneficial. They must be taken out the hands of the bureaucratic, grossly overpaid directors and executives. LY falls far short on this demand.


    Not surprising anyway. It shows us that for the usual leftist crowd that this was never about the possibly of a pipeline exploding and people dieing, but just another anti-Capitalist rant.
    It's rubbish to say that it was merely "another anti-Capitalist rant". Private companies have never put the interests of safety above their own profit levels. The number of deaths from pipeline accidents in the recent past is enough to prove that. There are already photographs showing the rusting and corroding pipelines before they've even been put to use!
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    That's true. Ye guys do realise ye should probably be in the Socialist Party don't ye? (Or in some cases OSF or Éirigí
    Why would anyone from LY want to be in the SP? You join Labour to make a difference, not sit on your throne of purity congratulating yourself on your purist pehaviour. The SP will never achieve the changes they talk about, and thus are not in any sense an alternative. They are a token gesture.

    It shows us that for the usual leftist crowd that this was never about the possibly of a pipeline exploding and people dieing, but just another anti-Capitalist rant. The people of rossport were just being used.
    It wasn't just about the dangerous pipelines, although how you figure that the people of Rossport are being used is beyond me. People wouldn't submit to going to jail and putting their lives on hold for a few years unless there was a real issue here.

    To say it's just a small issue whipped up by a few crusties is not only insulting to the people invloved, but it also flies in the face of the evidence on the ground.

    We've had a number of state-owned companies in Ireland, all crippled by bureaucracy and wasteful management, entirely because they're generally unaccountable to the communities and workers in them
    Exactly - it wasn't the fact that these companies were state owned that led to them being poorly run - it was because useless FF stooges like Noel O'Hanlon were given the job of running them.

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