China to the Rescue in Athlone!

[Expose the lot of them]

[QUOTE=General Mayhem;4709891]It is likely that many spots will be taken up by non-Chinese competitors also. The Development will provide many jobs locally, in catering, transport, hotels etc. etc.QUOTE]

You are dreaming, the business people vising this "shrine" to Chinese capitalism will drive from Dublin to an already scheduled appointment and head straight back when they finish their business. The Chinese who work at the "shrine" will import everything they need from and China and will remain within their own zone, the local gombeen men and women will be very disapponted. After the construction phase there will be on local job creation.

In fact there is no guarantee that any local/Irish/EU labour employed, the Chinese are likely to import their own slave labour and the way was cleared for them to fast track work permits with the budget announcement that it would be easier for "investors" to import "key workers". Can you see lucy, leo or the bogger gombeen elements of the blueshirts attempting to stop the import of slave labour? I certainly cannnot, the best the Irish can hope for is an unpaid "internship".

They are selling chinese Products and Services, not chinese Culture & Language. They may find it helpful to employ people who speak English. It is not up to Ireland to rush out and learn Mandarin. I presume that when we send tourism reps to China, we choose folks who can converse in the local language & and understand the nuances of the local culture. They would be wise to do the same.

Dream on, they will employ multi-lingual Chinese nationals (key workers) they have no interest in the local language or culture, what is being proposed is an Chinese occupied zone, which will not be compliant with any Irish legislation and the idiot politicians, gombeen locals and free market cheer leaders will think it is great if the odd visiting German stops for a sandwich somewhere in the area. That will be a one off as the European business people who are buying from China will not entertain the prices charged for sandwiches and coffee not to mention alcohol.

This scheme will benefit the "promoters" and the Chinese, it will be the thin end of the wedge of more of the same, little pockets of Ireland occupied by the Chinese, Indians, etc. Think it is bad being under IMF/EU rule, wait till you see what it could be like with Asian masters.

[LTLCHG]

[QUOTE=Expose the lot of them;4711582]

It is likely that many spots will be taken up by non-Chinese competitors also. The Development will provide many jobs locally, in catering, transport, hotels etc. etc.QUOTE]

You are dreaming, the business people vising this "shrine" to Chinese capitalism will drive from Dublin to an already scheduled appointment and head straight back when they finish their business. The Chinese who work at the "shrine" will import everything they need from and China and will remain within their own zone, the local gombeen men and women will be very disapponted. After the construction phase there will be on local job creation.

In fact there is no guarantee that any local/Irish/EU labour employed, the Chinese are likely to import their own slave labour and the way was cleared for them to fast track work permits with the budget announcement that it would be easier for "investors" to import "key workers". Can you see lucy, leo or the bogger gombeen elements of the blueshirts attempting to stop the import of slave labour? I certainly cannnot, the best the Irish can hope for is an unpaid "internship".



Dream on, they will employ multi-lingual Chinese nationals (key workers) they have no interest in the local language or culture, what is being proposed is an Chinese occupied zone, which will not be compliant with any Irish legislation and the idiot politicians, gombeen locals and free market cheer leaders will think it is great if the odd visiting German stops for a sandwich somewhere in the area. That will be a one off as the European business people who are buying from China will not entertain the prices charged for sandwiches and coffee not to mention alcohol.

This scheme will benefit the "promoters" and the Chinese, it will be the thin end of the wedge of more of the same, little pockets of Ireland occupied by the Chinese, Indians, etc. Think it is bad being under IMF/EU rule, wait till you see what it could be like with Asian masters.

If they can't get foreign customers, and rely only on customers from Dublin, then it won't last very long. They will all pack up and go home. Problem solved.

If they can get foreign customers, at least one or 2 of them will buy a cup of coffee, rent a car, buy a train ticket and a plane ticket.
I know the Germans are frugal, but I can't see them swimming here with a packed lunch between their teeth and then running all the way to Athlone.

[Expose the lot of them]

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If they can't get foreign customers, and rely only on customers from Dublin, then it won't last very long. They will all pack up and go home. Problem solved.

If they can get foreign customers, at least one or 2 of them will buy a cup of coffee, rent a car, buy a train ticket and a plane ticket.
I know the Germans are frugal, but I can't see them swimming here with a packed lunch between their teeth and then running all the way to Athlone.

Certainly they will fly in to DUBLIN, hire a car in DUBLIN or take the train if the Chinese arrange a pick-up from the station which they probably will. The point is that there will be very little money spent in Ireland and what little is spent is more likely to be in Dublin, than go to filing the tills of the local gombeen men and women who think that they will make out like bandits on this - they will not . Cannot see the European business people, who will be the clients of the Chinese occupied zone, hanging around Athlone. They will visit the Chinese and hot foot it back to Dublin and in many cases fly in and out on the same day.

[Equinox]

The granting of planning permission for this development is awful news, of course, being the short sighted economic gombeen men that we are, we'll be happy to accede to the deal because, 'ah sure der might be a couple of jobs innt', and so we will have gone from taking the queens shilling to taking Mao's yuan.

China are the worst economic imperialists in the world right now and like all imperialists their philosophy is 'take everything and contribute nothing that you absolutely don't have to' .
The Chinese are LOATHE to expatriate a single cent that they don't have to spend outside their own economy, and 'fair trade' is an alien concept which is why they will soon have the largest economy in the world. We've already economically shot ourselves in the foot by handing China our manufacturing base, lock stock and barrel, should we hand them the jobs in this country too?

The Africans are really pissed off with the Chinese at the moment, they are buying up huge farms and mines across the continent to provide food security and raw materials to feed the Chinese boom but won't employ Africans, not even for the infrastructure projects that they have offered the African governments as sweeteners in these sort of deals. They will offer to build a road for example as sweetener to see a deal go through but they will import Chinese labor to build it.

[walrusgumble]

It is likely that many spots will be taken up by non-Chinese competitors also. The Development will provide many jobs locally, in catering, transport, hotels etc. etc.

If that is true, then that might be promising, if Ireland can get a spot. As for business, yeah, I would not dispute that hotels might do well. The Sheraton will be hugely relieved. But these are people who want to get in and out of a country. They are not here to holiday and will want to be back in their beds in mainland Europe that night for a major meeting the next mmorning. It aint for a jolly up. And unless we get the Scots, Welsh, or English, the Pubs aint going to be busy. Some of the Europeans are tight feckers. They will puke when they see our coffee and some of our food on offer

They are selling chinese Products and Services, not chinese Culture & Language.

Yeah I gave that one a rethink, but Chinese are very precious that they themselves take care of that stuff.

[walrusgumble]

I hope they leave their human rights ethics at home.

Ah the Athlonian shams will sort them out.

[walrusgumble]

[QUOTE=Expose the lot of them;4711890]

Certainly they will fly in to DUBLIN, hire a car in DUBLIN or take the train if the Chinese arrange a pick-up from the station which they probably will. The point is that there will be very little money spent in Ireland and what little is spent is more likely to be in Dublin, than go to filing the tills of the local gombeen men and women who think that they will make out like bandits on this - they will not . Cannot see the European business people, who will be the clients of the Chinese occupied zone, hanging around Athlone. They will visit the Chinese and hot foot it back to Dublin and in many cases fly in and out on the same day.

Are You suggesting that Athlone is a ************************hole with nothing better to do that people are desperate to go back to Dublin?

But, yeah, I know, its a business trip so, it would be over and back visit. That's how they do it on the continent . No dirty weekend for them, so. If the customers are mostly Chinese, you are dead right, they won't even hang around for ahem, food . Anyway, this proposed sight is not exactly walking distance into Athlone Central.

[General Mayhem]

Ok, some very good points raise, well done. Financing is at the heart of this, I think we all agree we should know more about it at planning stage.

What do you think of the Spire planned for the development? I think it will look very cool and will draw visitors from all over the world. The structure is the typical cultural symbol at the centre of all Chinese towns, and will be the second tallest structure in the country.

[alonso]

Permission granted by An Bord Pleanala for Phase 1 today

€175m Asian trade hub in Athlone will create up to 1,500 jobs - RT News

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