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    Quote Originally Posted by ManOfReason View Post
    Independents are not choosing between McCain or Obama because of either's policies, they are looking at their disappearing pension funds and choosing a Democrat over a Republican because they are pissed off and want a change in the White House. If people could rewind the clock I bet they wish they had Hillary Clinton taking over in January. I believe Obama's administration will be a disaster. We will then unfortunately see the return of the neo-cons in 2012 once the extreme left of the Democratic Party have made fools of themselves for four years.

    And yes I am a bitter Hillary supporter

    Mrmrmrm Hillary proposed that gas tax holiday also, Hillary was a populist twit also, and the public smelt phony.

    Obama will be prudential, though I'd worry that he may procrastinate and avoid decisions

    In any case he's in a lot of trouble as he has a chance to get a filibuster proof 60 seat Senate majority. At the least he is guaranteed a House & Senate majority. With the economy tanking he is been given all the levers of power.. so no excuses - so by 2012 he will have taken massive hits on this.

    Expect the "Do you want the Dems to control the House, the Senate & the White House" to be a major feature of McCain's comeback & debate on Wed. Even if McCain doesn't win by raising this issue he'll have done his party a service.

    Another stunt he may propose would be a government of national unity...

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    I've mustn't have being attention. It looks like unsubstansiated rumors about an affair between Obama and a campaign worker Vera Baker might be what is getting Drudge and Kristol exicited.

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    There are just wasting their time. Don't they know Obama is perfect and could never cheat on Michelle. ;-)
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    From the same Mail 'story':

    In the Presidential race, polls showed that with just over three weeks to go until the November 4 election, Mr Obama is leading his Republican rival John McCain.

    A Newsweek poll published on Friday showed Illinois senator Mr Obama ahead of the 72-year-old Arizona senator by 52 per cent to 41 per cent.
    Can you smell the desparation?!

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    By the time the Republicans are done purging the voter rolls in Ohio, Missouri, Nevada, Virginia and Florida (including at county level where they don't hold the Secretary of State's office), an upset election will be in the offing - assisted by an "October Surprise" like something coming out of the Rezko interrogations or an Osama Bin Laden video like in 2004. That house-business looks fishy to me and could become Obama's Whitewater if he becomes president and the GOP retake Congress later on. Why did Rezko buy part of a property and the Obamas the other half, followed by Rezko selling to Obama?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky View Post
    At this stage I think McCain needs something close to a miracle to win and I can't see that happening in this debate. At the very least he will need to hammer Obama.
    Didn't happen in the first two debates.

    Can't see any reason why it should happen in the third.

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    The more I see of the old geezer the more I get the impression that he wouldn't last full term. And then it's B-I-M-B-O, B-I-M-B-O, B-I-M-B-O and Sarah was her name-oh

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    The debate venue,Hofstra University in NY is buzzing with preparations:


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    "We actually had to give the campaigns the exact water glass the candidates will be using during the debate," said Hofstra president Stuart Rabinowitz. "So they know the heft of it, I guess."

    Special vents were cut above the spot where each candidate will stand during the debate, to improve air flow so they won't perspire

    More than 3,000 media members are credentialed to cover the debate. MSNBC's "Hardball with Chris Matthews" and WNYC radio's Brian Lehr show will broadcast live from campus on Wednesday... tens of thousands feet of cable and carpet, and installed thousands of phone lines and hundreds of flat-screen televisions

    Resident students are being asked to "Host a Commuter" student on Tuesday night, to reduce traffic on Wednesday from commuter students eager to visit campus on debate day.

    Nassau police plan to shut down parts of Earle Ovington Boulevard to all traffic and ban commercial traffic from nearly two miles of Hempstead Turnpike Wednesday. The main gate to the North Campus will be closed beginning today.
    Meanwhile McCain is defending ground he never expected to

    (CNN) — John McCain and Sarah Palin are campaigning Monday in two states that haven't voted for a Democratic presidential candidate in more than four decades, a clear indication the GOP ticket is scrambling to defend longtime Republican strongholds with only three weeks until Election Day.

    McCain and Palin held a joint rally in Virginia Beach Monday morning before the two candidates split up, as the Republican nominee heads down to North Carolina as his running mate stays behind for more events in Virginia. It’s the first time McCain has made visits to either state in more than four months

    But while McCain has largely been absent from both states all summer, the Obama campaign has aggressively built up on the ground organizations there, outspent their GOP rival considerably on staff and television commercials, and worked to register tens of thousands of new voters. The Arizona senator has also been badly out-campaigned in the two states. According to a report in the Wall Street Journal, the Democratic ticket has made nine visits to Virginia and seven stops in North Carolina. That compares to just one visit in Virginia and two in North Carolina on the Republican side.
    Even if some new offensive works he still has huge defensive play. I'm beginning to see a cunning plan:

    Washington Post RICHMOND -- The chairman of the Virginia Republican Party has compared Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama to Osama bin Laden because of the Illinois senator's past association with Bill Ayers, who has confessed to domestic bombings as a member of the Vietnam War-era Weather Underground.

    According to a report in this week's Time magazine, the Virginia party chairman, Del. Jeffrey M. Frederick (R-Prince William), told Virginia volunteers working for GOP nominee John McCain that Obama and bin Laden "both have friends that bombed the Pentagon."
    "That is scary," Frederick said
    McCain is setting up his own wing-nuts for a fall... he is going to rip into them and suddenly appear very bi-partisan and leaderly ?

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    Obama = Osama? How utterly juvenile and pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach View Post
    It's worth remembering that even in the Great Depression in 1932, 39.7% still voted for Republican president Herbert Hoover. A lot of American conservatives would sooner vote for a pig with lipstick than vote Democrat. McCain will be president.
    So, let me get this straight. Because Herbert Hoover was clobbered in 1932, McCain will therefore win. Also, last time I checked, 39.7% in a Presidential election means you lose.

    Even by your standards, FT, that one's a beaut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hiding behind a poster View Post
    So, let me get this straight. Because Herbert Hoover was clobbered in 1932, McCain will therefore win. Also, last time I checked, 39.7% in a Presidential election means you lose.

    Even by your standards, FT, that one's a beaut.
    If 40% of Americans were prepared to vote Republican even with 25% unemployment and a 50% foreclosure rate, then what makes you think even more won't vote for McCain with just a 6% unemployment rate?

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