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    Quote Originally Posted by draiocht23 View Post
    If a smear and dirty tricks campaign four years ago managed to besmirch Kerry's record as a distinguished Vet, don't you think it's a bit risky to take the higher moral ground now and assume that the Republican attack machine will not work - or at least do significant damage?

    No, I really think the percentage play is to assume Americans are sick to the teeth of being made feel scared all the time and sick of being lied to. I think after 8 years of it they can now smell Republican bullsh*t and want something else. The national mood has changed. So it's not about taking the moral high ground per se, it's about winning and if the moral high ground wins, take it.

    All this notwithstanding the fact that some response to the smears is of course warranted and necessary. But in keeping with the overall strategy, the form of that response should be by ridiculing and belitting it, discounting it as more of the same, as frivolous etc. This, I think, is basically what they are doing. Even the new "attack" "ad" on McCain comes across as pretty balanced and is in keeping with the sober, non-hysterical approach I am advocating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by East Coast Elitist View Post

    However. There's a reason no one is talking abortion very loudly in this election, not even Caribou Barbie. Economy is the one and only issue right now. Followed by Iraq and health care, when people just can't think for one minute longer about the meltdown happening before our eyes. Do you have a video clip on that? (Obama's Keating 5 clip is 13 minutes---way too long and boring).
    On the contrary, Abortion is a major issue in this election and I need only point to those who are completely opposed to life, namely Planned parenthood and other pro abortion groups to make my point. This election they are spending over 20 million dollars ( I think the most they have ever spent) to discredit pro life candidates across the country.
    Obama knows this too. You can go to youtube and watch him talk to planned parenthood about how this election is crucial is the balance on the supreme court. On this We both agree!

    Why is it not in the media? The answer is simple, because most people are sick of talking about it. I believe that to be wrong of course, but the media don't like covering it because of the fact that it is such an emotional issue.

    What you see and what the facts are can be very different things.

    Let me make this very simple. If you don't believe they are human lives inside the womb then that is for another thread. If a person does believe they are human lives then yes, since 1 million babies are murdered every year in the US, this is very much a choice between policies which would maintain that situation ( evil) and those that would try to stop it. ( good- for the most part)
    Suffering after your abortion? There is help.

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    Any chance YOU might take the abortion issue to another thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfk2008 View Post
    Any chance YOU might take the abortion issue to another thread?
    I have no problem taking it to another thread.
    Nevertheless, I was simply exercising my right of reply, which should not be seen as a reluctance to stay on topic.
    Suffering after your abortion? There is help.

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