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    Obama over and over would not say where he would reduce spending. He never stopped saying where he would spend.

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    Obama wins on economy, McCain apparently wins on foreign policy but basically spent most of his time defending the war in Iraq and putting out the message that the US will be staying in Iraq indefinitely.

    A very poor tactic (or should that be strategy? ).

    Obama didn't come across nearly as well as McCain most of the time but sometimes used clearer, more direct, simpler language.

    He badly needs to work on his ability to get his points across in clearer language and start using it all the time instead of just sometimes.

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    Well, the later ones will have more economics than foreign policy because this was the foreign policy debate. That suits Obama quite a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fergalr
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    This debate was supposed to be on foreign policy primarily so it probably suits Obama that it came first.
    If this debate had been focused on the economy, then McCain could be in the gutter right now, And I am aware than I am unfortunately parrotting CNN presently.
    Well on the economic debate McCain seemed to cope comfortably with Obama....

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    Meh I thought McCain had the edge but the media are all reporting an Obama victory.

    I thought he was rather indecisive IMO, lots of uhming and areing, although McCain wasn't any great shakes either, it was steady from him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dublinguy
    Quote Originally Posted by fergalr
    Quote Originally Posted by nineteensixtyseven
    This debate was supposed to be on foreign policy primarily so it probably suits Obama that it came first.
    If this debate had been focused on the economy, then McCain could be in the gutter right now, And I am aware than I am unfortunately parrotting CNN presently.
    Well on the economic debate McCain seemed to cope comfortably with Obama....
    He can't get away from the fact that he supported Bush's economic policies and the "fundamentals are strong" line will haunt him. The financial crisis is the backdrop to this part of the campaign and if it stays that way it suits Obama.

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    mccain kept going on about the success of the surge, the surge isn't succeeding,is temporary, unsustainable and and reversible to quote the general.
    What does the Irish President spend their time doing. Work in progress
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    Quote Originally Posted by SharpshooterTom
    Meh I thought McCain had the edge but the media are all reporting an Obama victory.

    I thought he was rather indecisive IMO, lots of uhming and areing, although McCain wasn't any great shakes either, it was steady from him.
    This could be yet another moment where the pundits are blindered by their knowledge. What a sad sentence to have to utter
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    mccain kept going on about the success of the surge, the surge isn't succeeding,is temporary, unsustainable and and reversible to quote the general.
    A point Obama didn't make. Obama loses big time on that one.

    However, McCain's biggest mistake was to stress that he wants the US to stay in Iraq indefinitely. Obama was clever to repeat several times that the war is costing the US taxpayer $10 billion per month.

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    Re: The McCain-Obama first debate thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by fergalr
    Quote Originally Posted by SharpshooterTom
    Meh I thought McCain had the edge but the media are all reporting an Obama victory.

    I thought he was rather indecisive IMO, lots of uhming and areing, although McCain wasn't any great shakes either, it was steady from him.
    This could be yet another moment where the pundits are blindered by their knowledge. What a sad sentence to have to utter
    Well I'm only saying that because I'm watching FOX, and FOX being FOX should be hammering home the fact that Obama lost his cool occasionally, stuttered, unclear, failed to set some of his points home properly and decisively. But they're not, they're saying Obama "did what he had to do and did well", from their "conservatives" that is.

    I finding more critiscm from BBC than from FOX right now.

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