Have Men damaged Themselves?

[westair]

The discussion surrounding the end of the Clinton campaign is turning towards the amount of misogyny and anti-feminine remarks made by so many of the male pundits during the past year. The list is long - On Sunday DNC chairman Howard Dean stated that there was much sexism in the campaign and the reporting of it by many male pundits and journalists. Christ Matthews had to make a public apology for his angry misogynous remarks - David Shuster was suspended from the air for two weeks, Alex Castellanos on CNN was allowed free range with his vitriol. Keith Olberman and Howard Fineman also had to make apologies for on air discussion which would have had them suspended forever if they made the same comments about a black candidate.

But now it is the morning after and there is a growing consensus that sexism played a role in how all of this got reported and that Obama got a free ride in the face of the over scrutinizing of Hillary. The imbalance was palpable. Now we have Christ Mathews admitting on air two days ago that he made mistakes and "has a lot to learn" about how to discuss female candidates. Yeah, he does. Many of the other male reporters do also.

The interesting factor is that younger women – who had been in a false state of “equality’ have been awakened to the latent sexism in society. The ugly remarks about Hillary’s clothes, her voice, her “anger” have all resonated with the younger female voters who really had never heard such things before – welcome to the past. The past is not dead and gone – it isn’t even dead.

[imokyrok]

Well said Westair. Now brace yourself for the usual "feminazi" insults.

[Squire Allworthy]

If I could add the refusal to allow Hillary to be a person in her own right. She has been called Billary, is blamed for what Bill does, for staying with him, for his dalliances etc etc etc. Women are not the chattel of men. In this case she is probably more capable than her husband. It is insane.

Some of the coverage has been decidedly weird. The comments about her dress sense and outfits typifies a demeaning attitude. How much comment do we have about the dress sense of either McCain or Mr Preen? Do we have endless blogs on the size of their buttocks, or protruding ears or skin complection?

Press coverage has generally been lamentable. Some of it was sexist, vile and repugnant. Instead of the cheap remarks if some of the journalists spent a bit of time doing their job properly and set about finding out a bit more about Obama, his associations and his past we would all be in a better position to judge him. For at the minute we are forced to rely on impressions and that is to no one's advantage, and probably least of all Obama's.

[BaudrillardNeverExisted]

Do we have endless blogs on the size of their buttocks, or protruding ears or skin complection?

Oh Oh! Racism! Racism! Racism!

[Electro]

The bottom line is women think sexism is a one way street. They think as far as sex relations go, only women can be oppressed and only men can be oppressors. Well, feminist jurisprudence (e.g. VAWA, no-fault divorce, child support) says otherwise.

Some much needed anger against the hypocricy of feminist politics was vented during Hillary Clinton's run. It would be my hope that most of the attacks had a sophistication to them - i.e. they were from men who did not forget the anti-male sexism of the 1990s Clinton co-Presidency.

[Squire Allworthy]

Do we have endless blogs on the size of their buttocks, or protruding ears or skin complexion?

Oh Oh! Racism! Racism! Racism!

Nice one, but you know what I mean. However that illustrates another problem with Obama everything you say like the obvious, "the majority of Blacks vote for him," can be turned and attacked as racism, but buttock size is OK and safe.

[LAAlex]

wait a minute. Who has a big ass?

[irishpeoplearewhingers]

Which men? When Hilalry was going on about the white working class, did her playing of the race card transfer racism and cynicism to the female gender in general?

[Universal_001]

Yes Obama got a free ride

A free ride when the media was discussing Wright
A free ride when the media was discussing Bill Eiyrs who has nothing to do with him
A free ride when the media was discussing Resko
A free ride when the media was discussing weither or not hes a muslem

Yes there was sexism, but its not what turned the vote, I already pointed out several examples in the other thread.

Alot of the male media commentatrs made remarks which gave fuel to the Clintons already existing victim complex, and now it makes it easier for them to blame their defear not on their bad campagn and pandering policies but on sexism

[cHeal]

People made sexist remarks? I'm not so bothered, but I'm a man so it's not really my cause.


And certainly remarks about her dress sense or appearance are not in anyway sexist. When women stop watching tripe like Sex in the City, a females dress sense won't be an issue. It is women who get themselves all worked up about clothes and junk, not men, please stop turning this ************************ on us!