Obama's Pastor interview - not such an extremist after all

[Gaius Baltar]

This it the transcript if the recent interview with Reverend Jeremiah Wright. When you read the whole thing, it's clear that he is far from an extremist. You may not agree with everything he says -I don't- but he is far from the white-hating bigot some have made him out to be.

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/04252 ... ript1.html

[FutureTaoiseach]

Damage-limitation nothing more.

[Binx]

McCain's the one on the easy ride express at the moment. When the media have had their fun with the Dems they'll turn on him for associating with pastors who think Katrina was God's cleansing exercise. (It was on the daily show last week, couldn't find the exact link but if you watch all last weeks videos on the website
you'll see it. It wouldn't be the worst hour and a half of your life to do that anyway.)

[FutureTaoiseach]

McCain's the one on the easy ride express at the moment. When the media have had their fun with the Dems they'll turn on him for associating with pastors who think Katrina was God's cleansing exercise. (It was on the daily show last week, couldn't find the exact link but if you watch all last weeks videos on the website
you'll see it. It wouldn't be the worst hour and a half of your life to do that anyway.)

There is no suggestion McCain spent 20 yrs going to such a pastor though, or had his children baptised by one, or himself married by one, or wrote a book based on a sermon (on his own admission) by one. Or that he attended a church that said it supported the 'White value system". That's why it isn't comparing like with like.

[Gaius Baltar]

McCain's the one on the easy ride express at the moment. When the media have had their fun with the Dems they'll turn on him for associating with pastors who think Katrina was God's cleansing exercise. (It was on the daily show last week, couldn't find the exact link but if you watch all last weeks videos on the website
you'll see it. It wouldn't be the worst hour and a half of your life to do that anyway.)

There is no suggestion McCain spent 20 yrs going to such a pastor though, or had his children baptised by one, or himself married by one, or wrote a book based on a sermon (on his own admission) by one. Or that he attended a church that said it supported the 'White value system". That's why it isn't comparing like with like.

No its not comparing like with like, you're right. Wright may be a loon and a conspiracy theorist but to compare him with the bigots and racists that McCain and other republicans have embraced is just silly.

[Squire Allworthy]

I am sure Obama must be wishing Wright would go away and shut up. He has reopened the the whole gamut of problems with his recent interviews and has received not so good press coverage.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/roughske ... ace_c.html

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008 ... ex.html?hp

[khavakoz]

There is no suggestion McCain spent 20 yrs going to such a pastor though, or had his children baptised by one, or himself married by one, or wrote a book based on a sermon (on his own admission) by one. Or that he attended a church that said it supported the 'White value system". That's why it isn't comparing like with like.

No, that's because McCain's religious bedrock prefers to announce the end of days to his crowds, to cast out the evils of intellect, to denounce jews for their rebellion against god, to denounce catholics for their apostasy and to denounce gays for being offensive to god. McCain didn't just receive the blessing of Hagee, he sought it out, appeared with this sick twisted anti-catholic/semite/gay/evolution/rationality loon and failed to distance himself from his apalling message.
The media has given McCain a free ride on this - probably because Hagee is a whitey - but don't imagine for a moment that is going to remain the case until November.

[FutureTaoiseach]

A new AP-Ipsos poll strongly suggests that Clinton is now the stronger Democratic candidate:

Clinton 50%
McCain 41%

Obama 46%
McCain 44%

Based on what happened in 2000, even if the latter were the outcome of the popular vote, it is quite possible McCain would still win the Electoral College like Bush did in 2000 when he lost the popular vote.

Meanwhile the Wright issue is seeping into the Congressional races. The Mississippi Republican party has released an ad criticising Democratic candidate Travis Childers for being silent on Pastor Wright and supporting Obama. This relates to a by-election runoff that will take place in a few weeks. In the first round, Childers outpolled the Republic 49-46. This is in a district that voted for Bush by over 20% in 2004, so was a bit of a shock. I wonder will tactics like this work?

[khavakoz]

A new AP-Ipsos poll strongly suggests that Clinton is now the stronger Democratic candidate:

Are you going to post these nonsensical polls every time they are issued? Hypothetical matchups prove diddly. Hypotheticals had John Kerry crushing Bush in 2004. The moment he became the actual candidate, those figures fell and he went behind Bush - even a Hollywood stage-manged convention couldn't provide more than a dead cat bounce.

[FutureTaoiseach]

A new AP-Ipsos poll strongly suggests that Clinton is now the stronger Democratic candidate:

Are you going to post these nonsensical polls every time they are issued? Hypothetical matchups prove diddly. Hypotheticals had John Kerry crushing Bush in 2004. The moment he became the actual candidate, those figures fell and he went behind Bush - even a Hollywood stage-manged convention couldn't provide more than a dead cat bounce.

It's not just this poll its a pattern of state-polls showing he can't win the Electoral College. The narrative on Obama has changed since Wright, and you need to realise that.

Still, it seems Pelosi and Dean are determined to take the Democratic party over the cliff in November to get the nomination for Obama.