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    What is detractors fail to realise is that his supporters elected him regardless of their detractions and will do so in the next election as well moaning about it will not change the slightest thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanieFitz View Post
    I agree, that is democracy however the democratic process also provides for the electorate to condemn, criticise, confront, disagree etc with the resultant elected candidate
    By the way, I fully understand why many did not vote for HRC
    I'm not judging him on past deeds or actions but only on what he has achieved as POTUS which I'm sure the rest of America will in two years time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Rommel View Post
    I'm not judging him on past deeds or actions but only on what he has achieved as POTUS which I'm sure the rest of America will in two years time.
    that might very well happen, he may also have been impeached by the time the next election comes around. Time will tell

    I believe that not only does Trump welcome the chaos, criticism, media criticism etc but he actually encourages and seeks it.

    Dana Perino has said on a number of ocassions that Trump uses his detractors and the general outrage at his tweets/actions as a distraction from his policies/decisions.

    Trump, imo, is a masterful manipulator of the media and is using the media every minute of every day. He knows that his base is his base and those who are not in his base will never, ever support him. His base has become entrenched and not only distrust the media but actually hate the so called "fake news" and they don't care about Muller or kids in cages or Trumps lies, his infidelity, his racism, his sucking up to Putin, his ignorance, his shady business dealings etc etc. They are his disciples and will remain so no matter what Muller proves and the media are simply helping Trump to secure his base.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanieFitz View Post
    that might very well happen, he may also have been impeached by the time the next election comes around. Time will tell

    I believe that not only does Trump welcome the chaos, criticism, media criticism etc but he actually encourages and seeks it.

    Dana Perino has said on a number of ocassions that Trump uses his detractors and the general outrage at his tweets/actions as a distraction from his policies/decisions.

    Trump, imo, is a masterful manipulator of the media and is using the media every minute of every day. He knows that his base is his base and those who are not in his base will never, ever support him. His base has become entrenched and not only distrust the media but actually hate the so called "fake news" and they don't care about Muller or kids in cages or Trumps lies, his infidelity, his racism, his sucking up to Putin, his ignorance, his shady business dealings etc etc. They are his disciples and will remain so no matter what Muller proves and the media are simply helping Trump to secure his base.
    The impeachment thing will be dragged out and out in an attempt to find anything of dirt and so far there is nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Rommel View Post
    The impeachment thing will be dragged out and out in an attempt to find anything of dirt and so far there is nothing.
    and if they find nothing, or are unable to prove anything, then Trump will be almost unbeatable in 2020
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Rommel View Post
    The impeachment thing will be dragged out and out in an attempt to find anything of dirt and so far there is nothing.
    Well, except for riding porn stars and paying them off to shut up about it, except for the tax-fraud Trump Foundation, except for the sexual harassment and assault allegations, except for the Conspiracy with a foreign power to defraud the United Sates, except for the Obstruction of Justice, I suppose you are right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by owedtojoy View Post
    Well, except for riding porn stars and paying them off to shut up about it, except for the tax-fraud Trump Foundation, except for the sexual harassment and assault allegations, except for the Conspiracy with a foreign power to defraud the United Sates, except for the Obstruction of Justice, I suppose you are right.
    this lady might have some interesting tales to tell, wonder does she know Sean Hannity

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...p-stone-771182
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    Quote Originally Posted by owedtojoy View Post
    Well, except for riding porn stars and paying them off to shut up about it, except for the tax-fraud Trump Foundation, except for the sexual harassment and assault allegations, except for the Conspiracy to defraud the United Sates, I suppose you are right.
    ...and? Sounds like Bill Clinton who got reelected with 90% media approval? The above compares to White House interns amongst many women (Jennifer Flowers a"night club singer"and the Clinton Foundation (don't go there, the media certainly won't ). There is a big difference between taking advantage of starry-eyed White House interns and paying off porn stars. Different media standards apply with the Clintons and the Democrats, as always.
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    Quote Originally Posted by owedtojoy View Post
    Well, except for riding porn stars and paying them off to shut up about it, except for the tax-fraud Trump Foundation, except for the sexual harassment and assault allegations, except for the Conspiracy with a foreign power to defraud the United Sates, except for the Obstruction of Justice, I suppose you are right.
    Billy Clinton was getting a blow job in the Oval Office when he was POTUS so your not really hitting any marks with that rubbish.
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